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[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago

There’s been more democratic socialists elected this year than ever.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago
[-] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

DSA is a freaking joke

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah I find this push for the US to take arms against the US army kind of a weird one at this point. It's not going to happen overnight and the US is fucking huge. Like, do you all realize how geographically BIG the US is? Do you have any understanding of the difficulties we face in mounting any sort of physical resistance to this shit? You're solidly delusional if you think complaining at individuals on Lemmy is going to spark a physical revolution here.

[-] Athena5898@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago

Okay, counter point. Why complain at people on Lemmy then for pointing out facts? You kind of make it apparent this way that this is about your world view being challenged.

If you acknowledge that you have to do more then vote and America is not a democracy. It means you have wasted you time and your life on people who literally cannot care about you with the way the system is.

We are not voting our way out of fascism. We are not fixing a system working as intended.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You know the take is factually correct but you still dismiss it because you want treats for yourself and you are willing to compromise on US imperialism for it.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nah, I agree with the take. I disagree that fighting in the comment section against people who are more aware than the average us citizen is going to produce the results you want.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

You are literally fighting against people who are calling out US imperialism.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

lol I’m not fighting, I’m having a discussion.

You’ve taken the position that anything except shouting about revolution is simping for the US. There’s no middle ground for talking with you apparently.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

Wait, so being in favor of imperialism is taking a position, but being against imperialism is fighting people?

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

I didn’t say I’m in favor of imperialism.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

You're just against people who oppose imperialism.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

A handful of Lemmings is all people who oppose imperialism now?

Ok.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

Looks like it. And the second they speak against it you throw a hissy fit.

[-] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago
[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago
[-] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

How is that, in any way, edgy?

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

It's easy internet points on Lemmy to do this song and dance of punching down on US citizens for seemingly not doing anything to fight the current administration.

There's a lot of ways to do so that get ignored in threads like these.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

punching down on US citizens

Are you fucking trolling?

[-] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

not doing anything to fight the current administration.

This administration is just a symptom of a more insidious evil in the system... Called Capitalism. Reds and Blues are the same thing.

[-] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago
[-] TiredTiger@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

It's not just the current administration; it's every administration.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

"You're just fighting, I'm simply having a discussion!"

[-] ILikeToMeow@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

If you seriously support having a Revolution in the US then reading Theory is not optional, there are errors upon errors upon errors that people inevitably fall into if they do not have a correct understanding of the world, it's history, and how society, economy, the state, Capitalism and so on actually work, which kills a Revolution and result in horrible failure. Cowbee (I think, or maybe it was yogthot or how ever the name is spelt) has a good beginners reading list you can work through, at the least you should read works by Marx, Engels, and Lenin at a minimum.

[-] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Revolution, or invasion, is the only solution for the US. People outside don't believe in people inside's willingness to make the former happen. The latter is the retribution waiting to blow in their faces.

[-] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 14 points 1 month ago

They could at least stop actively supporting it and cheering it on, but that's too "divisive" 🙄

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah US citizens on Lemmy really celebrate it /s

[-] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 10 points 1 month ago

Lmao don't @ me on this if you aren't openly rude to any military or police involved person.

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You think all 350 million people in the US worship cops and military?

lol don’t @ you - you replied to my comment.

[-] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 12 points 1 month ago

Are you friends with anyone who works on military projects, in the "defense" industry, is in the military or has served in the military in the past (same question for police)?

Do you attend events that include "thanking the troops"? Do you allow your kids to go on field trips that involve the military or cops? Do you go to war museums? Participate in or support Cadet programs?

Have you filed an objection to selective service (if you fall into the demographic that it applies to? Are you rude to recruiters? Do you protest recruitment offices if they open in your community?

If yes, then congrats on your gold star for the bare minimum. If not then maybe you and the other the 350 million Americans can ask themselves why they put their social comfort over human rights .

(And yes I do these things in my own country)

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

No, I'm not.

No, I don't attend or participate in any of that.

Yes, I have.

I don't really need to prove to you that I'm rebelling in the right ways though. It's a lot more nuanced and complicated than a lot of these comments want to make it out to be. There's way more people here that are against the status quo than you want to believe, I think. This stuff doesn't happen overnight.

[-] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Of course you don't need to defend yourself to a stranger on the internet. My point with the questions is it's not armed insurrection or nothing.

If you believe, deep in your heart, that you are doing all you can (which is all anyone can do!), why make defensive comments saying it's too hard and people who think it's possible just don't understand? I'm not saying you need to publicly or privately support these specific tactics if you don't agree with them. You just don't need to do the empire's propaganda for them, ya know?

[-] velma@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think these types of conversations can be very reductive and being inside of the US, I see more dissent and pushback than is sometimes expressed here. So yeah, I'm not so much doing the empire's propaganda for them as defending the people here actually doing the work you're all begging us to do.

Also thanks for engaging in a respectful discussion with me. I know this topic is touchy.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago
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