Is there a FileSystem framework without AI features? (programming.dev)

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While getting quotes for a site recently the question of filesystem came up a lot and I admittedly didn't know much on the subject.

Doing some research the popular choices appear to be either PHP frameworks or less often ASP.NET frameworks.

Among popular PHP frameworks I see Laravel come up a lot, open source is certainly more reliable than something maintained by Google, Facebook, or Amazon but currently the Laravel maintainers are pushing AI really really hard.

So is the only real solution to learn to program with PHP without using any frameworks or libraries? Can anybody who has implemented a secure fileserver for a website tell me how difficult or easy it would be to learn?

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[-] Kissaki@programming.dev 12 points 2 days ago

The quoted text makes no sense. It has gaps. And the comment you dismissed seemingly pointed that out.

Websites don't have a file system. They serve content as responses.

PHP is not a filesystem. ASPNET is not a filesystem.

You could be talking about managing files, you could be talking about sourcing web responses from local files, or you could be talking about something else.

[-] FiniteBanjo@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

FileSystem Framework

Examples: Laravel, ASP.NET, and NodeJS FS

Did that clear up your confusion?

Here is a link to the documentation for NodeJS FS: https://nodejs.org/api/fs.html

Here is a link to Laravel's FileSystem documentation with quote: https://www.laravel.wiki/en/filesystem

Laravel provides a powerful filesystem abstraction thanks to the wonderful Flysystem PHP package by Frank de Jonge.

It's fine to be legitimately curious but if you think the question is wrong then you're arguing with reality.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Those aren't fileystem frameworks but filesystem interfaces used by frameworks. Counter example of what i mean: https://filesystem-spec.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

[-] FiniteBanjo@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

I'm certainly not going to use their interfaces on a different framework, so I'm looking for frameworks, Jack.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago

Nodejs is not a framework though. So you very well could use the exact thing you linked to with many different frameworks

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