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[-] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

Keep going please...Tell me how that would work in the US system of First Past The Post elections.

Or if First Past The Post elections is the problem, tell me how you would get rid of that system.

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

It would require not using elections to express power

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Keep going please…Tell me how that would work in the US system ....

Well first I want you to imagine having a sense of decency, an ability to feel shame, and identify what morality you have, if any. Let me know when you get to that point and we'll talk next steps. Whats worth you acting on? Not someone else, you.

edit: no reply, and theres your answer. You will only act when you are literally lit on fire, and until then you'll sit there and do nothing while flapping your mouth uselessly, same as you centrist lot always do. You are a walking liability to whatever political party will have you.

[-] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sigh...

So you don't actually have a real solution for getting rid of the conservatives and neoliberals in office.

You just want everyone to know that you're too cool to be a Republican or a Democrat. 👍

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

You don't need to get rid of that system. All you do is need to vote for candidates that do not support the oligarchy. But liberals are not concerned about long-term success, their concern about the short-term win

[-] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

I mean..yes. Exactly. That's what the primaries are for. Primary out the neoliberals.

The Republicans primary out anyone who isn't hard right enough for them. They vote, then they vote again, then they vote some more.

And now all branches of government are controlled by the hard right. Because they voted. A lot.

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Incorrect.

In the 21st century alone, Democratic presidential candidates have accumulated tens of millions more raw votes than their Republican counterparts, heavily bolstered by high-population states like California and New York. For instance, in 2008 and 2020, Democratic candidates won the popular vote by margins of roughly 9.5 million and 7 million votes respectively.

Democratic primaries routinely draw higher raw voter turnout than Republican primaries.

When evaluating the "national house vote" (the cumulative number of votes cast nationwide for all members of the U.S. House of Representatives) the Democratic Party frequently captures a higher raw vote total. High-turnout midterm wave elections, such as the 2006 and 2018 midterms, saw immense raw vote advantages for Democrats.

Local election turnouts are heavily dominated by major metropolitan areas. America’s most populous cities (such as New York City, Los Angeles, and Chicago) feature massive electorates that vote overwhelmingly for Democratic candidates in local municipal races.

So your theory of is not supported by the evidence. Please try to explain why things are the way they are again, but this time include the fact that Democrats have consistently voted more at every single level than Republics for almost 30 years.

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