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I would argue that if you're choosing between chrome and brave, brave is still better.
Sure. Probably. But why are we choosing between Chrome and Brave?
People entirely blind to the idea that they can just choose something else instead of 2 piles of shit, one of which has a cherry on top and was sprayed with perfume recently.
Its like some sort of awful american tradition at this point.
For a lot of people, it's an easy transition.
DDG, Vivaldi, etc. harder transitions.
Firefox for my parents would result in calls every 3 days for sites that aren't working right.
I'm just saying perfect is the enemy of good.
Very difficult to believe. I have had issues with Firefox over the years but in every single instance it was a result of my custom setup. The browser has no major compatibility issues out of the box. I think it's way more likely your parents are technologically illiterate and confuse other problems or gaps in their knowledge as issues with the "new" thing (in this case, the browser).
I rarely encounter sites that don't work with Firefox. I'd be surprised if it's even 1 per month.
When that happens, then I just end up opening it in a different browser. I can't actually remember the last time I've needed to do so.
Sorry, what? If they are so tech-illiterate that they have to call you and ask why the website is not working, then what kind of web sites are they visiting?
Been using FF since 2022 and the only sites that wont work are the ones that utilizes HID. Are your parents trying to flash custom firmware for their phones though browser every third day?
Good for you. I've been in tech for over 16 years and FF absolutely does not work well on ~25% of websites.
Been in tech longer then that (if for some reason we are doing that now) and I will officially call bullshit on that claim.
Cool. I still champion FF every chance I get, but the experience is not seamless.
I'm glad your experience has been smooth.
Waterfox is just a fork of FF. We are pushing the same browser, more or less.
I love Waterfox!
I get it that tech people stumble upon these sites much more often than non-techies. My point was that if your parents are having website issues every other day (which implies they are not tech-savvy), then why would they even visit sites that are not FF-compatible. How many sites out of all the web do you think are not compatible with FF? Give an example of a normie site that wont work well with FF.
On the other hand, if your parents are tech-savvy then why would they ask you why a website wont load properly? Do you get it that your statement counters itself?
I have not been able to get proper payment processing to work with Portland area PGE in FF, ever. Across Windows, Linux, or Android (can't speak for MacOS or iOS).
Wanna link those websites so we can see?
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/26486446
Do your own research, I am not your slave.
The person who makes the claims is the one who gives evidence.
Wait, really? The access cripplers are crazily powerful add-ons for the paranoid, like NoScript, not the browser itself. Like what example websites, specifically?
Bare MVP is ublock+ stock FF. Even allowing 3rd party cookies and...
Y'all can burn me at the stake all you want, I don't fucking care. I use FF daily and champion it, but to say it works 100% all the time for every site is just disingenuous.
I have opened all pages on 1st page of google with a "portland news" prompt. All of them opened. Care to give some examples for testing?
which one?
Your-work-related sites and payment sites obviously are out of reach for me to test. But these two claims would be easy to prove, right?
Hmm, but what were/are your add-ons? Are you saying none of these worked correctly even when accessing immediately after installing fresh?
Just wanna say I've had similar experiences. I don't think I'd put the number as high as 25% for myself, but my workplace's internal sites and some local/utility sites are also broken on non-Chromium browsers.
What sites are those?
I think this is when @AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com will discreetly not answer or otherwise avoid mentioning the exact websites... (Because there are none)
Yup mostly because I don't care anymore. You're all stating the, "it works on my machine" mantra and I don't care. See my other comments for some examples.
Websites that are actively malicious against firefox, that miraculously work when you have a useragent plugin that makes firefox report that its chrome proving that the site works fine, if the asshole code is removed?
Sir, 2000s called and asked you to return this argument back.
It's true, unfortunately. Not every 3 days, but once a month I encount these sites.
Change the icon on the desktop to the chrome pinwheel and they’ll never know the difference.
After seeing all the people talking about Vivaldi in this thread I figured I'd try it out...got to the "Panel" setup page, saw there's one for reddit, maybe I'll try adding lemmy.zip...
Failed Cloudflare check in panel, but it worked in a tab...okay, weird.
Thought about checking out Kagi since now privacy is on my mind...the front page would reload every 5 seconds so I couldn't read about it. It'd say "Verification failed please try again" and refresh.
Apparently this has been an issue with Vivaldi for some time? I guess this is the future of the web? You try to escape the claws of these giant internet powerhouses and they just...don't let you?
Is a two party system not capable of approptiately responding to the needs of the people within it?
Because Firefox is a different engine and might not work well with certain websites.
I've only ever encountered one website where Firefox didnt work.
and that was because the website was coded maliciously to reject firefox.. a plugin to make it think firefox was chrome and suddenly it ran fine.
Well I did, the Amazon Prime Video has many weird behaviors on Firefox compared to the Chromium engine, even YouTube used to have before.
Any web developer knows it isn’t as simple as “code once, work everywhere”. If companies don’t test on Firefox (which is a reality nowadays given its small market share) bugs happen in very weird and unusual ways.
Only issue I've ever had with Amazon Video was the fact they artificially limit resolution to 320p for people on linux, regardless of browser.
Couldn’t use just set the user agent?
Firefox doesn't support WebHID, so I can forget about configuring my custom keyboard with anything other than a Chromium based browser.
Keyboard setup would be a system level setting, no?
Via is a very common tool to setup mechanical keyboards, customize the layout, the layers, the backlight,...
See: https://usevia.app/
Doesn't work in Firefox because it simply does not support webhid.
I consider that a website problem, not a me problem. I choose what I do on the internet, the internet doesn't dictate the software I use.
My real issue is as a dev of a web application, using Firefox makes things occasionally render differently. It's only once in a blue moon but enough to make me just accept using Vivaldi to be closer to the defacto user experience. And then I can't be bothered to switch between FF (I use Zen) and Vivaldi and split my bookmarks, extensions, logins etc. it just doesn't make sense.
On iOS you can go on pornhub on brave and it blocks all the ads and cookie popups.
That's one reason that uh... "someone" might use brave.
Orion also blocks ads on iOS and isn't backed by Thiel, run by Eich or an ad business startup masquerading as an ad blocking browser.
Ok i will look
Brave has a certain distasteful reputation earned by repeated unethical fuckery. If you are fine with what brave does, you have no reason to avoid chrome in the first place.
So Brave is a good answer to an absolutely terrible question?