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[-] Tw4tty@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Thats how most bus stops are here in the UK. We've had them like that since buses were a thing. Is it an attack on the homeless or just a bus stop? I feel like more context is needed.

[-] trudge@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

To give context from another capitalist hellhole that is propagandized in the West to be even a worse capitalist hell than the West to keep the population in line through fear:

Korea (lib) has bus stops with air conditioning, sun cover, wind cover, heated seating, usb charging port, wifi, and digitized bus arrival time with real time update through a screen.

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's way above and beyond the average even in like, Berlin.

The most you get here is a small booth with a bench and glass covering the side + a plastic roof. Also the electronic screen with bus arrival times, but that's a city thing only.

[-] poppy_apocalypse@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

LA Metro hates the homeless more than the average Angeleno and that is fucking saying something.

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

It's supposed to provide shade to folks at the bus stop. How much shade is this actually providing? How many people can get in the marginal shade this even provides? It's basically non functional.

[-] Tw4tty@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Its function is surely to say "here is a bus stop, you can get a but here at X time". I'm not arguing that its uncomfortable for passengers. I'm certainly not arguing that homelessness is a problem, but come on - fix the homeless issues, dont create a society where they sleep in bus shelters. Give them a society where they get jobs that pay, medical and mental health treatment, affordable homes, etc. I find it kind of sad that this is people's first thought of reasoning when talking homelessness.

And if its passengers that want the shade, dont use the homeless as a wedge issue. It muddies the water. Dont get to the bus stop too early, ask the company, or go with another firm for transport/ride a bike... There are options even in shit countries.

[-] ped_xing@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you see the pole with the white Metro 16 sign on the right, that's what tells you it's a bus stop and what bus will stop there. This was supposed to be something more than that, now it's basically a very expensive and redundant piece of crap.

[-] ped_xing@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

The bus is really infrequent and LA gets a lot of the-sun-is-trying-to-kill-you days. The lack of benches is an attack on the homeless. This thing yielding practically no shade is an attack on bus riders. It's not so much that they made things worse -- I've stood at stops there with no shade whatsoever. That these things were just recently installed makes installing something actually good a non-starter for years, if not decades, and that's the problem. It's sort of a flip side to the good-is-not-the-enemy-of-the-perfect cliche. I don't oppose this because it's good and I want perfect -- I oppose it because it's crap and I want at least good, but we're locked into crap for now. See also: VTA light rail.

[-] Tw4tty@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Maybe the real issue isnt the bus stop, its the lack of regard and help in general for homeless people? I mean, how many of those objecting donate to homeless charity (I do twice a year if I can afford it), or help at shelters? Vote for politicians with a proven record of helping addiction, mental illness issues and poverty issues? I mean its all good to say "there are no seats" but people shouldnt be having to fcuking sleep on a bus shelter in the first place - they need proper bloody help.

[-] CTHlurker@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

You can't really do anything to improve local politics in LA because it's utterly dominated by real estate interest groups, and also because the cops in LA need to get put in a denazification camp. Like the entire institution of policing is bad, but LA cops are genuinely insane.

[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What is the point of a bus shade cover if it's transparent and smaller than a person? Also I searched "british bus stops" and they look like normal enclosed bus stops with bench inside them?

[-] Tw4tty@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Thats just some inner city ones. Many rural ones are just flag poles.

[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

We have those in LA too, but this thing they put up was meant to act as a bus shade and also cost like $100 million.

[-] Tw4tty@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Then you have a corrupt local authority that funnels your taxes out. Vote for better people, stand for election, be citizen journalist...

[-] CTHlurker@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

The difference is that the UK doesn't have year-round temperatures of 29 degrees celcius. You can get away with not sheltering people in the UK because the weather (usually) won't kill them.

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