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Bruised Democrats weigh how to win back voters, and regain power: ‘We’ve got to fight’
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My question for the Democratic leadership is: Why can't they find any decent candidates? Seriously: the Senate race against Susan Collins ought to be a Dem gimmie, and the best they can do is Graham Platner? I don't even care if the dude is fully reformed and now a shining beacon of progressivism, there's literally millions of alternatives without questionable histories. Where are all these angry pro-social, anti-war, climate enthusiasts when it's time to put in the work to run against some Republican shitbird?
Where are all the Zihran Mamdanis and Kat Abughazalehs? Why wouldn't Dan Osborn run as a Democrat?
Well, given that the DNC backed an Independent candidate over Zohran Mamdani through the actual election, I think the question the DNC is asking is not "how do we find another Mamdani" but "how did we let Mamdani win?".
"b-but we need unity. stop berating the democrats-" No. Between that New York race and the years of stonewalling progressives; and the complete lack of any party leadership in the last year and a half.
What about the blatant funneling of "dark money" funds into Chorus??; an attempt by the Democrats to hijack the trusted online media landscape that they'd shunned through Biden's term.
The Democrats are perfectly consent with all of this terrorism. As another comment noted, they exist to provide stability for corporations. As such, the Dems have spent the last year-and-a-half helping sheep the USA into fascism. They don't care about our rights. They care that we keep to our routines, especially in situations where following that routine is unnatural and destructive to our lives.
Don't get me wrong: There are good "Democrats" (AOC, Chris Murphy, Ilhan Omar...), and I will still vote for them; and Representative Thomas Massie was a man with more character than at least half of the Democratic Party's politicians, despite membership in the Republican Party of Epstein and fascism. There is always nuance, and there are always outliers. What I do not want is for people to trust Democratic leadership. The only party I trust at this point is the Working Families Party; the coalition which rallied for Mamdani's NYC mayoral victory against the strongest voices of the Democratic Party. Of course, his opponent being a mass-murdering sexual predator helped, too; which begs the question of why the DNC would support a mass-murdering sexual predator.
Not that I doubt it but what do you mean the DNC backed an indie candidate? I thought the DNC chair endorsed Mamdani following primaries?
When it comes to general elections, even the corporate Dems tend to be better than the Republicans. I mean, if the corpos are out there avoiding any solutions, the GOP is actively trying to harm people, and "nothing" is better than "more boots to the ass." If the last three Presidential elections show anything, it is that the Democratic party will not be fixed by withholding general election votes in protest, and third parties are still irrelevant.
The time to fix the Democrats is in the primaries. The people to fix those primaries are people who would really rather vote for a radical 3rd party candidate. Many states have open primaries, so third party voters can just go vote in the Dem primary. Treat it like sabotage. The right-wing nutjobs took over the republican party. Left wing nutjobs can take over the democrats, if they show up. Mamdani doesn't have to be a black swan.
The problem is, that's how the country creeps rightward. If the Dems aren't going to do anything because of "stability," that leaves the door open for the Reps to yank it to the right next time they're in power. And they do. Every time. Much moreso the last 2 times. There are little to no "moderate" Republicans left - most of them are Democrats, now, which is also Not Good.
So given that the US has the Fascist party, and the "Don't make waves" party, they're on a path to full-on authoritarianism unless they can drum up an actual progressive opposition.
The right wing nut jobs were able to take over because they didn't disrupt the status quo. The DNC will not be reformed because it's operating exactly as designed.
Because that's not who the Democrats represent.... They don't want progressive policies, they want to preserve existing power structures and norms. In any other society, or to anyone who has fucking eyes; this is called conservatism. In America conservatives are cartoon level bat shit crazy fucking lunatics, so it's easy to mistake Democrat conservatism for progressivism.
No matter who wins the mid terms, nothing donnie2shits did will be undone, and no policies will be reversed. Rights will not be restored to those that have lost them and the dems will accuse you of "magical thinking" for expecting change to be possible
If you want the real answer to that question, look no further than the guest list for Dick Cheney's funeral.
It's the same reason the supreme court is stacked the way it is, Rowe wasn't codified, and there always seems to be a Manchin, Sinema, or Fetterman there to throw a wrench into the gears.
I would be willing to forgive someone for attending Cheneys funeral if they showed up drunk as hell, 40 of Billy Dee in hand, and treating the death of that monster like the celebration it should’ve been.
This would’ve also been acceptable behavior for Kissingers funeral
It's because they don't want any candidates that want to make actual changes, they want to perpetuate the status quo. So radicals get filtered and slandered until no one is left who can fight back. The only time someone else gets through is when they can capture enough public attention that the Dems can't smear them out of the running.
Or that's what it looks like from the outside. I haven't lived in the US in years, so maybe I'm way off nowadays.