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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by ladybugs@lemmy.world to c/fuck_ai@lemmy.world

A lot of us here hate AI because of how it was built: training data gathered without the creators' explicit, opt-in consent, data centers that negatively affect communities' access to clean water and energy, a technology design that is inherently prone to hallucinations, etc. At least, those are the main reasons why I hate it.

I think I might actually want to support an AI project if I thought it was being done right. Maybe we could get more people away from exploitative models if there was a non-exploitative alternative.

So what would it take to build AI ethically, in your opinion? And do you know of anyone trying to build AI without these issues?

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[-] Kirk@startrek.website 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Firstly I don't think LLMs are "AI", secondly it's companies and people who have ethics, not software. Someone could use a Linux PC to trigger a nuclear bomb that doesn't mean that Linux is unethical.

[-] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

I mean the energy usage in the face of global climate catastrophe is pretty unethical regardless of source of training material or what the LLM is used for

[-] Kirk@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago

Companies are the ones doing that.

[-] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

Running an LLM inherently requires a large amount of energy. Whether locally run or in a large data center. Companies just make it happen on an insane scale.

[-] Kirk@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago

Yes but the LLM is not the thing making the decision to do that on that scale. The people using it are.

[-] its_kim_love 5 points 1 day ago

This is a shit take.

[-] Banana@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

They aren't what is unethical. Capitalism is unethical as it is inherently exploitative because that is how you maximize profit, or gain profit in the first place.

[-] Kirk@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago

I'm going to be a pedant and say that capitalism is not a conscious being capable of free will and therefore cannot abide by a code of ethics BUT individuals choosing to participate in a capitalist system make it much more difficult (impossible) to behave ethically.

[-] Banana@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Well yeah if you want to get into the semantics of it

[-] its_kim_love 2 points 1 day ago

What a novel and unique perspective. IDGAF

[-] Banana@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago
[-] ratrace@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Sorry who are you? AI can suck dez nutz

[-] its_kim_love 1 points 1 day ago

Someone sick of having your view copy pasted under every comment that says fuck AI.

[-] Goodeye8@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

Did you check the community you're in?

[-] ratrace@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

We don't like your kind around here

altr

[-] its_kim_love 1 points 1 day ago

I thought I was talking to Kirk. Replied to the wrong person.

[-] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 points 1 day ago

If only there were some easily-accessible tool to make it so that ignorant opinions of specific idiots could be expunged forever from your feed.

Oh, wait! There is! Holy shit! It's almost as if we knew how to do this in the '80s already!

As you'll find out shortly if you waste your energy trying to respond to this.

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