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MAGA has never been conservative, the fact that folks are asking this now says much about the electorate
On the contrary: MAGA is the truest expression of conservatism the US has ever had.
Craving to be subjugated and ruled by a dictator is and always was what conservatism has been about, all the way back to literal monarchists Burke and de Maistre. Any other definitions about "conserving" or whatever are just lies they tell to bullshit their marks.
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
That's MAGA.
MAGA was, and is, socially conservative to the point that they are willing to back a fascist to get their pet issues pushed through.
MAGA voted a notorious alduterer in office how is that socially conservative?
It turns out the actual values they were protecting the whole time was impunity for the privileged. It was never about anything else and now that we know that we should stop pretended otherwise. There's nothing good about social conservative values and we don't have to respect those values are the people who are advocating for them.
The only thing conservative I've seen out of this administration is lack of abortion, and removing LGBT rights, everything else is authoritarian which is not conservative.
As a side note conservatives tend to make room for the libertarian right, that room is now gone.
There never was and never will be a "libertarian right". Conservatism is for conserving a strict top-down hierarchy and always has been.
The libertarian party was literally created by billionaires to advocate for their preferred tax policy without leding people who wanted legal weed or gay marriage. It's a nonsense ideology
Sure there is. Libertarian-Right = Extreme Selfishness.
That's why their top issues are shit like "you can't make me..."
Libertarianism has a left to right bent. I know the popular meme is libertarians are just conservatives that want to smoke weed but there really is a libertarian right.
I've been told I'm a secret Republican double agent for decades.
Still independent, still vote for Ds more often than not in national elections. UNFATHOMABLE
My gun rights opinions tend to turn off the progressives in my circle, yet I tend to be more left than most of them.
One of my friends once told me that when you go far enough left, you get your guns back.
The right has always preferred the rule of the few over the many, ever since the days of colonial America and the Loyalists. First, the rule of the King of England. Then, opposing slaves' rights. Then, opposing women's suffrage. It has pretty much always been their opinion that the powerless are powerless because they deserve it.
MAGA is absolutely conservative, the hell are you talking about?
I've really been meaning to stop referring to them as conservatives. It's harder than you'd think after all this time.
Traitors seems like an appropriate fit.
They're traitors and authoritarians who belong in prison.