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[-] CheddarBiscuits@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

This person is an idiot. I get fuck cars and all, but yeah fuck your life too I guess... 1 blind merge and crunch there go your legs. If you want to cycle on the road, that's fine, just follow the rules of the road. They are written in blood. Honestly I'd have zero sympathy for this person if I heard they got run over and killed...

[-] lemann@lemmy.one 21 points 1 year ago

Outside the US, attitudes to bike riding are different. While some of the maneuovers this rider carries out are very risky, they seem like they are keeping things in check i.e. looking out for themselves.

At sections where the traffic is moving slowly, there looks to be a very reasonable effort taken to not inconvenience other drivers by cutting them off and the such... and in sections where traffic is moving fast, they appear to be riding the max speed indicated on the road (mostly 20)

The bike rider obeyed the traffic signals and executed maneuovers identical to the other motorbike riders, it feels like a stretch to imply they weren't following the rules of the road in this scenario when others are riding the same, engine and no engine.

Do consider that with a bike-mounted dashcam you can't see things like eye contact between the rider and drivers, and subtle movements indicating that the driver is aware of the bike rider's presence. The type of lens used on these dashcams also distorts things greatly, making things appear closer or further than they actually are

[-] BNE 19 points 1 year ago

Jesus, that's a bit rough. I mean, the death stuff - why say that? I understand you're being hyperbolic but - again - why put that out there? Noone deserves to die for riding through traffic, what a thing to say...

[-] GCanuck@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

True. No one deserves death for riding through traffic. But if you choose to ignore basic safety rules, then you don’t get to claim innocence when your safety is compromised.

People literally died to get these rules in place.

[-] smeeps@feddit.uk 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The rider didn't break a single UK traffic law

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Maybe if three or four more people say it, it will sink in.

[-] CheddarBiscuits@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The cemetery is full of people who had right of way, just saying.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

You’re working from your gut feeling. The official advisories that cyclists should filter forward comes from data. Don’t be a putz; lurk moar.

[-] JoBo@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago

The cyclist (and motorcyclist) is following the rules. Rules designed to put them in less danger than sitting in traffic.

Here's rule 88 of the Highway code, which simply assumes you're going to filter because it is safer to filter (and your motorcycle instructor will have told you to filter, and your test examiner will fail you if you do not filter).

Rule 88

Manoeuvring. You should be aware of what is behind and to the sides before manoeuvring. Look behind you; use mirrors if they are fitted. When in traffic queues look out for pedestrians crossing between vehicles and vehicles emerging from junctions or changing lanes. Position yourself so that drivers in front can see you in their mirrors. Additionally, when filtering in slow-moving traffic, take care and keep your speed low.

[-] smeeps@feddit.uk 18 points 1 year ago

Filtering is legal and encouraged in the UK. There are cycling UK videos showing this technique as best practice. Please don't bring your US centric views to a UK video if you don't understand our laws

[-] theplanlessman@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago

So you think cars create a dangerous and inhospitable environment unsuitable for humans? I think we can agree on that point.

[-] JoBo@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago

Those are the rules of the road. Cyclists (pedal or motor) are not supposed to sit in traffic, they're supposed to get ahead of it as quickly as possible.

[-] ThePalmtopTiger 1 points 1 year ago

When on a bicycle (or motorcycle/scooter) stopped in traffic you're at far greater risk of serious injury from being rear ended and sandwiched with the car in front than you are from being side swiped. There's a reason that motorcyclists have been pushing for common sense low speed lane filtering legislation in the US. As long as the biker is going at a moderate speed and is staying vigilant it's a pretty safe thing to do. Legalizing this practice and teaching motorists that they may encounter this would go a long way to mitigate risk.

Also saying you have no sympathy for someone getting maimed or killed by a car when the car driver made the choice not to check their mirror and blind spot is seriously sick.

this post was submitted on 17 Aug 2023
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