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[-] traveler@lemdro.id 13 points 1 year ago

Why are we still talking about Covid? Shouldn't we all have a good deal of immunity against it?

[-] library_napper@monyet.cc 82 points 1 year ago

We dont have immunity, that's the point. read the article.

[-] traveler@lemdro.id 6 points 1 year ago

With so much vaccination, how does people don't have immunity yet?

Even if they were not vaccinated for a while, there's always a percentage of immunity. The virus itself is not that deadly as well.

[-] library_napper@monyet.cc 52 points 1 year ago
[-] traveler@lemdro.id 6 points 1 year ago

I did, hence i said:

Even if they were not vaccinated for a while, there's always a percentage of immunity.

Sorry, but I'm not up to the fearmongering campaigns once again. The first response to Covid was totally out of measure in my opinion and they're retrying it again.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

The first response to Covid was totally out of measure in my opinion

what-the-hell

Inconveniencing boomers consuming their sit-in restaurant treats until they started blockading hospitals and breaking into government buildings until those inconveniences were rolled back was "out of measure?"

[-] Artemis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I haven’t been around Lemmy for a few weeks and today is my first time seeing anyone from the Hexbear instance. I like you people.

[-] Iraglassceiling@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

Death is not the only negative outcome from Covid infection. When you consider the literature on Covid causing grey matter loss, prion disease, chronic vasculitis, cardiac disease, autoimmune disease, etc, you could argue death is actually one of the preferred outcomes.

Immunity isn’t an on/off switch and the virus is mutating to escape immune detection. It seems like you do not have a solid grasp on the kinetics of vaccine and viral immunity, is there a question I can answer for you or would you like some resources that might help improve your comprehension?

[-] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 21 points 1 year ago

prion disease,

Jesus. Please tell me that's an extremely rare result. Because that is genuinely fucking terrifying.

[-] Iraglassceiling@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10047479/#:~:text=Current%20work%20suggests%20that%20there,prion%20disease%2C%20i.e.%2C%20neurodegeneration.

Yeah it’s fully terrifying.

I’m extra freaked that now Covid is endemic in the deer populations because Cervid Wasting Disease is also endemic and I’m afraid they will interact somehow…

[-] Shortstack@reddthat.com 12 points 1 year ago

Welp, guess masks are forever now between wildfire smoke and spontaneous prion generation risk. Jfc

[-] Iraglassceiling@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

What’s really cool is that prion disease incubation period can be years 🙃

[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

this is fucking terrifying

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Jesus fuck. : |

I could have gone the rest of my life without knowing that.

[-] Iraglassceiling@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

If you really want to scare yourself go read about FIP, which is what happens to cats when they get repeatedly infected with coronavirus.

[-] on8wingedangel@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

Doing nothing was too much for you?

[-] Shortstack@reddthat.com 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bruh.

The curse of successful mitigation is skeptics will then say afterwards that 'X was no big deal, look how few people died'

Don't be one of those.

[-] Piers@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I blame the combination of how over-hyped the (real) issue of Y2K was combined with how successfully we handled it (partly because everyone was so worked up about it) leading to the (common issue for IT professionals) take away of "well nothing went wrong, why did we put all that effort into trying to stop something going wrong?" for no small part of why people weren't as willing to try to stop/minimise Covid as they otherwise might have been (of course it was always going to be a harder sell as Y2K mostly required from the general public that they don't have a tantrum about organisations paying professionals to fix the problem directly whereas Covid required the general public to follow the advice of the professionals in taking action in their own lives.)

[-] hernanca@beehaw.org 22 points 1 year ago

What? 7 million people died from COVID-19. How many more would it have been without all the safety measures?

https://covid19.who.int/

[-] reversebananimals@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

We all knew you had already drawn your conclusion that this was "fearmongering" before seeing any facts.

No one is going to logic you out of a position you didn't use logic to get into in the first place.

[-] tripartitegraph@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

I know a 25 year old who had a stroke last month because of covid complications. Sure, not deadly but... I don't want to have a stroke either

[-] EremesZorn@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

That's not how any of the COVID vaccines were reported to work. No such thing as total immunity.
The virus is deadly depending on what conditions are met (underlying risk factors, etc.). Not all of those conditions are obvious or well-studied, so it always seemed to me like a lottery who gets killed by the virus.
Furthermore, I don't believe the article is fearmongering. As I said in a separate comment, it's more like "hey, there might be a bit of an outbreak in some places this flu season, so keep some N95s on hand just in case numbers go up." I HIGHLY doubt we would see another shutdown.

[-] FoxAndKitten@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Because immunity varies by disease.

Chicken pox? Pretty much one and done. COVID? Falls off rapidly after 3 months, whether you catch it or get the vaccine

Plus, every mutation is a dice roll on how much existing immunity will apply. It could be exactly the same as the last strain, or the old immunity might not help at all

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