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[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 52 points 5 days ago

Yeah as the article notes people have switched to nicotine pouches to get their fix. Which are better because they don't produce smoke and lung cancer, but they can still give you other oral cancers and dental diseases. If anything they're probably worse in that aspect due to being constantly pressed against the gums and lips. But at least they're smokeless.

[-] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 27 points 5 days ago

https://www.healthline.com/health/quit-smoking/does-zyn-cause-mouth-cancer#other-risks-and-side-effects

More research is needed. Nicotine on its own is not cancerous. Tobacco is. Nicotine pouches that aren't tobacco might carry much lower risks, but there is other stuff in them.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago

Nicotine on its own is not cancerous.

Man... if you really want misinformation, read Lemmy on the subject of vapes and nicotine. Everyone just copy pastas incorrect "facts".

Nicotine is carcinogenic.

and

Nicotine is carcinogenic

and

Nicotine is carcinogenic

[-] Rothe@piefed.social 12 points 5 days ago

Not to mention the littering problem is even worse than with cigarette butts.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 5 days ago

it's somewhat nice to not risk fires breaking out, though.

[-] Nighed@feddit.uk 1 points 4 days ago

They are just in different places though. All the lithium batteries keep causing fires in bin lorries and recycling/waste processing places

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Are they not biodegradable? The claim is that cigarette filters can’t be biodegradable (or no one forced them to), but why wouldn’t these be?

Not that it’s an excuse for littering, but we ought to be able to mitigate the harm a bit

[-] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 2 points 4 days ago

Are they not biodegradable?

Doesn't matter too much for the small woodland creature that comes behind you and tries to eat it, giving himself nicotine poisoning in the process.

[-] etherphon@piefed.world 18 points 5 days ago

That was my problem with replacing cigarettes with vaping, it worked great but you can literally use it all the time, so I was just puffing constantly when I was sitting, bathroom at work, airports, etc etc. and I don't think a coating of vegetable glycerine on your lungs is any better tbh. I feel great after quitting that too.

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 14 points 5 days ago

At least with vaping you can taper off the nicotine.

[-] etherphon@piefed.world 12 points 5 days ago

Yeah that was nice, went from 12>8>6mg

[-] akwd169@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

I mixed my own liquid so I was able to go down to 4, 3, 2, 1, then 0.75, 0.5, down to like 0.25 and lower I think

I was such a fiend that lowering the nicotine meant I would just hit it harder and more often for longer lol but once you get sub 1mg you literally cant hit it fast enough to feel satisfied even if you spend hours chain vaping 🤣

I also had a RDA that put out massive clouds though so that didnt help with moderation lol

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

But kids are going 6>8>12mg.

[-] redlemace@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Well, the pouches do not produce smoke is a plus, but it's disgusting. They spit them out during meetings to replace immediately with a new. They are in wastbaskets, on the street. Gross. For what i understood from dentist & doctors (standard question: do you drink, smoke, snuss) it's much worse than smoking. For the user that is, not their environment

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