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[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 55 points 1 day ago

I don't have a smartphone and I keep running into more and more of these QR codes. If I, as a citizen, am required to get a smartphone for these QR codes, to do citizen-like things, then it should be a utility and prices for hardware and services should come way down.

[-] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 5 points 21 hours ago

Not even way down, actually provided. You dont pay for wheelchair accessibility or braille on the signs.

I mean we all pay for it with taxes and increased prices, but the wheelchair user isnt forking out personally.

[-] procapra@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago

My entry level job requires that I use 3 separate apps. How do you get around that?

[-] NannerBanner@literature.cafe 2 points 15 hours ago

Probably by not having an entry level job. The companies love to make money off people any way they can, but potentially losing a highly skilled, long term trained employee would be worse than losing the income from the apps' data they can sell.

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

In china it's the norm. And I was feeling the same way, until I realized china takes way better care of its citizens vs USA. Everything is convenient, healthcare, etc.

https://youtu.be/nRW_wh5mIek

This YouTuber goes into pretty good daily life of avg Chinese users.

In rural areas, don't many Chinese not have running water? That doesn't sound like they are taken care of.

[-] SaneMartigan@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

The great Chinese achievement last century was lifting hundreds millions out of people poverty. That wont be everyone and some will still be living rough.

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't know the answer to that, I've only been to Beijing.

But overall, id argue with healthcare, public transit, building a new hospital when covid hit specifically for it, it seems like they're doing better than nickel and diming them to death like USA. It costs money to breath here. Their EV setup is off the charts too. Even Ford CEO complimented it and drives a Chinese EV.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ford-ceo-jim-farley-xiaomi-tesla-chinese-ev-2026-4

Chinese new chargers - https://youtube.com/shorts/KhoRJQUA6dA

https://youtu.be/TKMWZ5c1PMQ

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I know a few people that live in rural USA and tap the ground for free water. Waste water from shower goes on random land and brown water into septic and get emptied when full.

Super cheap compared to my city water.

On the flip side they have complete shit internet access while I got fiber.

They have to drive a ways (1 hr) for groceries and I got like 5 within 10in drive. Hell I could walk 20min to a convenience store or two.

[-] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

You get by without a smartphone? I was really late to get one but you just can't function in today's society without one where I'm at. In the Heart of Darkness here.

[-] kevinsky@feddit.nl 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You can function in today's society just fine, it's just less convenient.

But the problem here is not only that you need a smartphone to begin with, but also one specifically from either Google or Apple. Having something else (like a phone with Sailfish or GrapheneOS or any other custom rom) also doesn't work.

[-] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago

I am switching to graphene OS first chance I get, it should be this summer, damn the consequences.

I lived most of my life without any type of cell phone let alone a smart one. I'm going back to our roots, to reject this techno fascist bullshit it's only downhill from here on their gear.

[-] StopTech@lemmy.today 2 points 11 hours ago

Welcome to the resistance

[-] FG_3479@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Switch to GrapheneOS anyway. If a website forces verification with a phone that passes strict Play Integrity with no other options, then don't use it, or use a $30 Walmart phone if you must.

[-] kevinsky@feddit.nl 7 points 1 day ago

Yes, please. The more users we have on Graphene the harder we are to ignore as a user base.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

The general crowd doesn't seem to care about the trends that make graphene common sense and I suspect that Google would take measures if it ever did like they're currently doing to fdroid.

[-] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In at least some sectors, even this enshitified EU should be forced to stop Google from being anti-competitive towards graphene to some extent.

The US is fucked but I don't know about the rest of the world necessarily, kind of a free-for-all right now.

[-] kevinsky@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They are working on their "own" phone which should alleviate a fair number of concerns with what Google might be doing to sabotage them.

[-] farfalla@jlai.lu 3 points 1 day ago

Yet, will they be able to develop their own OS when google stop sharing the code with them ? I do hope so...

[-] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

I hope and think so. They're already way better and faster than Google at patching bugs and vulnerabilities on Android.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

i'm glad to know this!!! do you have any more info?

[-] klep@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago
[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

oic, i was already aware of motorola's partnership; i thought you meant that graphene was going to make their own phone.

thanks anyways, though; it's nice when people respond in good faith.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Same here. I'm waiting for Motorola to join in.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Just like they did with automobiles!

[-] mik3dd0@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

That's actually a really good point! 🤔

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