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[-] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 24 points 1 week ago

You think battery is acceptable but not illegal recording?

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

you don't consider deliberately invading people's privacy a form of assault?

that's fucking cute.

[-] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 6 points 1 week ago

It may well be in certain conditions. But if someone is assaulting you and you defend yourself, that isn't battery. So I'm not sure how it relates to my point.

If you just go smack the glasses off someone's face because you don't like them, you are the asshole

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

you want to invade people's privacy casually, and not have them react. so smacking it is, when I see glassholes like you, hands are gonna fly.

[-] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 1 points 1 week ago

I'm not gonna wear them, but we're talking specifically about public spaces. If someone is invading your privacy none of this applies

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

talking specifically about public spaces.

if you think creepshots are happening in private you don't understand the argument at all.

they go to malls and stalk young women, pointing their cameras up skirts and down shirts and worse.

[-] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Ok, those are all crimes.

[-] Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

Privacy in public spaces is not a thing and never was. For a good reason to.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

ah yes, there's only space that's private or public, there's never any appropriate shades of nuance.

wonder how people would feel about you filming their kids' school. or at the gym, or waiting in dr's office, etc., etc.,

people should have the right to not be creeped on by shitty assholes.

[-] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes, that's why there are harassment laws.

Schools and gyms are not public spaces you dildo

[-] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

You got downvoted but you're right.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

you dildo

cool, so it's a no moderation free fire zone.

Look, you unreconstructed whelp of a whore, the law only helps if you can get the police state to react in time. What, you gonna call 911 for the slave catchers to come every time you see a pair of glasses? because if they've deactivated the recording light (WHICH, YO, DUMBFUCK, THERE'S A VIDEO OF SOMEONE LOOKING FOR THIS SERVICE IN THIS POST'S COMMENTS) how would you know whether or not they're upskirting your daughter on the fucking escalator?

You're either so smoothbrained you lack the imagination required to make that tiny leap, or, you're advocating on behalf of the fucking perverts, and should be cast into the bowels of hell with all the other kiddy diddler pervert shitbags.

GET FUCKED WITH A BLOWTORCH YOU SUBHUMAN SHITBAG

[-] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Ohhh wow, really triggered you with the world's tamest insult

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

aw, did your feewings get hurt dildo bweath?

lol

[-] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 1 points 1 week ago
[-] Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Those are not public spaces? There might be shades of nuances, but they are at least not found in your examples.

I can at least agree with the creepy assholes part, where it is justified.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

the mall's public. if some creep upskirts your wife/kids there, guess that's just fine huh?

[-] Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

With these glasses?! That would be really funny in a "wtf are you doing" way.

Can you imagine it? "just a moment ma'am gonna take a quick picture "sticks his head up her skirt""

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

never used an escalator huh?

no, really. there's shit tons of upskirt camera shit all over; when you can simply take off your glasses and hold them at your side, angled upward, it's not a stretch.

[-] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago

cameras everywhere; phones, CCTV etc their is no expectation of privacy in a public space.

Recording police beating someone should be allowed for example, yet you'll go over and slap the glasses off their face as they record the cops beating someone to respect the cops right to privacy?

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Wow, what a great spinner of strawman tales you're growing up to be!

No, it's the perv at the bar looking down blouses, it's the creepazoid on the escalators looking up skirts. It's the animal spending far too much time loitering around your kids' school entrance.

See, two can play imagination!

But only one of our examples is actually a thing, eh? Your example has never happened. My examples have happened over and over again with PHONES. ffs

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Buses, trains, and subways. No one expects the dude sitting across the car to be filming up their skirt. Well, they might, but it would be more obvious in the past.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

yup. it's disgusting we have to spell out 'pervs are already doing it, you're just improving their pervert equipment for higher production values you sick fucks'

fwiw I think you are completely right for asking this. Violence-loving freaks around here, sometimes.

[-] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Some people are in need of violence.

Ah yes, troglodyte diplomacy.

[-] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

You can enjoy feeling superior all the way to the camps if you prefer

[-] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago

The right to privacy is important

[-] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes, I agree. So is the right to not have your shit rocked out in a public street because someone doesn't like the shape of your camera

[-] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

If someone breaches any part of the social contract, it seems a little rich to for them to lean on its protections while they're doing it.

[-] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 3 points 1 week ago

What part of the social contract is being breached by filming in public with a glasses shaped camera vs a regular camera

[-] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't think the shape of the camera matters half as much as:

  • overtly brandishing it at someone
  • trying to hide the fact that you are brandishing at someone (like by hiding it in your glasses)

Those actions are seen as aggressions by many, many people, as can be seen in the fallout from the original Google Glass, because there is an implicit desire to frame the target as guilty of something.

I'm sure this part is obvious now as it follows directly from above, but unprovoked aggressions violate the social contract, and brandishing cameras or surreptitiously recording people are widely regarded as aggressions.

[-] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Wait, who says battery is unacceptable across the board? Has anyone ever taken that position?

[-] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I mean, Mohandas Gandhi thought so.

[-] 5wim@infosec.pub 6 points 1 week ago

Nah

"Though violence is not lawful, when it is offered in self-defense or for the defense of the defenseless, it is an act of bravery far better than cowardly submission."

[-] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Seems like pushing the definition of battery, buy I guess it does call for battering someone under certain conditions. ๐Ÿ˜…

[-] 5wim@infosec.pub 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think I understand where you're coming from, and this is mostly humor and pedantry on my part, but given that the definition of "battery" is "unlawful intentional infliction of harmful or offensive physical contact," the quote from Gandhi isn't "pushing" it, rather is in perfect alignment, as he stated "unlawful" use as his acceptable use of violence.

[-] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

That's true! If you punch me in the face in an illegal manner, I'm also battered!

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

If I catch a glasshole directing their gaze at me, I'll beer batter them, them deep fry them, head, glasses and all.

[-] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Ok, that's murder but you do you

[-] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Typical vegan reasoning! /s

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have to ask why you think anyone would take a Jeussaurus seriously on Lemmy of all fucking places.

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