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Nuclear is the best btw.

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[-] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Bruh

Renawbles are capable of generating a ton of energy manageable distances from where they are used in most cases, even for the cases which they are not it is orders of magnitudes cheaper and better for environment if you make green hydrogen, ship it to where its needed and convert it back into current where you need it considered the absurd amounts of time and cost it takes to manage nuclear waste. Not even considering the cost to mine and ship nuclear fuel, build the reactor and safely dispose of it at the end of its lifespan as its miniscule compared to maintain any sort of storage building for a time longer than the time between humanitys first building and now.
Mining is mostly done by people living under slave like conditions in poor countries. Even thinking having a energy source which needs to CONTINUOUSLY BURN MINED RECOURCES to keep outputting any energy at all is superior to a energy source which NEEDS MINED RESOURCES ONCE TO CONTINUOUSLY output energy until broken by external forces shows the absurdity of your argument

Solar panels need silicium (literally sand) and bor, apart from some plastics and structural metal and glass. Those are way easier and cleaner to mine then radioactive materials, and bor is needed in really small amounts, AND IT DOESNT GET BURNED, YOU CAN REUSE IT.

3.Thinking that smashing a train against something tells you anything about the properties of a material when exposed to time spans of degradation many orders of magnitude bigger than the time humans even started researching material properties....I dont even know where to start with this "argument" its bs on so many levels

[-] Mavvik@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

Im not a nuclear bro, but a vast majority of the planet's Uranium is mined in Australia and Canada and both countries have pretty massive reserves. They have strict regulations and safety surrounding uranium operations. Naturally occurring uranium doesnt even pose much safety risk on its own, its the Radon that is generated by decay that causes problems for humans. Im not too familiar with how uranium mining is done but I imagine Radon risks can be mitigated pretty effectively with ventilation.

[-] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 2 points 2 weeks ago

About the point 2.

I live in a thinrd world country, and it angers me to no end when they try to take this moral stand when a lot of times they're the ones who didn't let us all develop in the first place lol.

My country depends on it's mining industry, the biggest copper mining country in the world and i think the 2nd on lithium, they say it's the wage of chile, most of the copper is extracted by the State owned CODELCO, wich money goes to schools and hospitals, and even the one who is mined privately is taxed and has to pay royalties that go to help the people.

Miners aren't even poorly paid for Chilean standards, and they have benefits, they're strongly unionized lol, and mines here have an extremely high tech level, making people don't have to go to risky places, a lot of mines are totally automated, where robots extract the material and take it out, while their operators sit comfortably in a control room in the city.

So don't come to lecture me on these "poor people in third world countries" because you know nothing, you are a firstworlder who had benefited from colonization and political meddling in our affairs, now that we're finally advancing, and making a better country for ourselves, you come to say this thing? Bruh.

[-] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago

i agree with the anti-nuclear, but the mining conditions are really far less of a problem with uranium… canada and australia are #2 and #4 in the world respectively

uranium is relatively plentiful, and hugely energy-dense so most places have some that’s viable to extract, and it’s not worth cheaping out on costs to save a couple of $ buying from slave mines given the potential backlash

i actually wouldn’t be surprised if uranium mining is one of the best jobs in the developing world because if they actually want to sell their product they’d have to market their working conditions