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This is a bit interesting. Isn't Lenovo a Cinese company who bought IBM hardware production or something like that. So Lenovo has outpaced Dell then? I always had a slim view of Lenovo ... and stuck with Dell because american superior quality ...
Are you serious? Basically all computers are manufactured in China. Yeah Lenovo bought the IBM line, so they started from a great position, but I've always considered them, and the thinkpads in their IBM days, in a cut above Dell.
dell is manufactured globally, in china and in other places. probably lenovo too.
of course they are manufactured globally. but in theory designed in US (for DELL) and China (for Lenovo). So in theory, QA and quality standards are way better specified in US than they are in China? Although, if Thinkpads are still comparable to their IBM equivalents in terms of quality, then the above theory is not true. China is moving ahead fast and everyone else is falling behind.
the chinese aren't worse engineers than americans, they're just usually more incentivised to reduce cost than increase quality
anyway I think the thinkpad design team is still in japan
I never said the cinese are bad engineers. They are probably outpacing american and european engineers. But their priorities are not protecting labour or the environment, which is why on average, i'm skeptical of cinese engineered and produced electronics.
americans can design garbage, so can chinese. or the opposite.