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Sylvain Charlebois discusses the subtle alteration in the nutritional composition of some products as manufacturing costs soar in the industry.

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[-] EhForumUser@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Why does it always have to be the consumer’s job to watch out for this crap?

It doesn't have to be. You are quite welcome to hire a professional to take over the task.

We shouldn’t let these companies have all the power to mess with our bodies on a whim without warning.

Likewise, you don't have to hire a professional to grow and prepare your meals for you. It is not that hard to do yourself.

Consumer protection really needs to be more robust.

Fair enough, but one thing you cannot hire away is democracy. If you really want this you need to put your boots to the ground to ensure it happens. It won't magically happen.

[-] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago

If I’m welcome to do all those things, that still makes it my responsibility as a consumer. So…

And the rest of what you wrote is just unnecessary. Of course shit takes work. Part of that work is talking to people to raise awareness, and gosh golly it’s almost like I’m already doing that.

[-] EhForumUser@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If I’m welcome to do all those things, that still makes it my responsibility as a consumer.

If you want to hold that view then there is no escaping the responsibility. Government too is just a collection of employees you hired to help you out with certain things. There is no removing you from being the man in charge.

Well, maybe if you move to North Korea. It might be happy to take responsibility off your hands. But I mean in Canada. Here, you have accepted the role as the leader. As the top boss, everything is your responsibility.

Part of that work is talking to people to raise awareness

If you hired a paid lobbyist, to save your own efforts, would you be happy if they spent their day chatting on anonymous internet forums?

[-] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago

Having it done as an automatic thing due to government regulation is hardly the same as needing to seek out a specific service, entirely on my own, to have the thing done.

I don’t care if it “still needs to be done by a person”, that was never even a question. This straw man is boring.

[-] EhForumUser@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Nothing about government is automatic. It is just people. People you literally hired, typically on a four year contract, to work for you.

And even then, those people filing your demands as regulation requires enforcement, else regulation means nothing. And so your direct reports have to hire even more people to do that, and you have to keep on top of them to make sure they are doing their job.

Or you could just hire someone else to do it directly – or work with your own food you produced yourself. It's all the same at the end of the day. It's just people, no matter how you slice it.

This magic you seem to be envisioning certainly isn't as boring, but no more than passive entertainment and of no relevance to reality.

[-] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago

Your straw man argument is boring.

I’m not saying any of what you are arguing against, so I’m done interacting with you. You clearly aren’t conversing in good faith.

Have a nice day.

[-] EhForumUser@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I’m done interacting with you.

An interesting contradiction. If you were done interacting with me you would not be in a position to tell me.

Is your intent here simply to say silly things so that we can laugh at them? If so, I apologize for assuming you were attempt to speak rationally, in good faith, and not as a comedy performer.

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