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Clearly. You seem to be willing to change nothing else in the process as well. I personally think we're collectively past status quo and bandaids. Things need to change, and change fucking drastically, or we'll just get another Trump again in the near future. Our politics are deeply corrupt and you cannot expect those of us not dunking our heads in the kool-aid to be chill with neoliberal oligarchy.
Punch left all you like, all you're doing is engaging in the neoliberal past time of being an aloof loser.
Not only will we get another version of trump they will be worse than think one, constantly testing the limits of government
Neoliberals haven’t been losing elections… leftists have.
Republicans are deeply corrupt. Private interest groups will forever be trying to influence all politicians. For example, progressives like Fetterman and Sinema.
That won’t change until citizens untied is undone. Leftists aren’t immune to it and pretending that it indicates “both sides r same” is a bad faith argument that the GOP has been using for decades.
Both parties do not have the same goals and just because private interest groups will never stop trying to influence them doesn’t mean the parties themselves have the same goals.
Big laugh from this. This country is locked into a two party system and one of them unfortunately isn't "leftist". Same with a bunch of other political ideologies.
Either way, taking the stance of "you're losers, so you better vote for us" is really convincing, just sayin. If you want leftists to vote dem like they are a monolith, then dems have to act like a monolith and not like a bucket catching scraps.
They take money from the same oligarchs. They hide donor sources through superpacs. They trade stocks with government intel. They harbor incredible resentment for the poor. They throw our tax dollars at bombs used to kill children. How exactly are their goals that different?
This is a democracy. If leftists are losing then it is because they are unpopular with voters. If leftists want to change that it is up to them. Historically they find and excuse not to vote every election which is why the government has moved right.
Leftists always take this “our way or the highway” stance and look all pikachu faced when voters choose the highway.
If you really can’t tell the difference between the goals of the two parties then you are intentionally not looking.
Republicans want to make it illegal to be trans while dems have trans politicians fighting for trans rights. This is just one of many blatantly obvious differences that you pretend don’t exist so you can continue your bad faith argument if “both sides same”.
Boy, I sure do love being a cudgel to beat dissenters with when they disagree with the Neoliberal party. Tell me that my life is contingent on the machine continuing to threaten me constantly while nothing is done to solve the systemic issues that allowed this insane shit to happen. Meanwhile, you take the success of leftists in the Dem caucus and hold them up as examples of neoliberal values.
I think ultimately we just have different goals. I want something different and you want the turd sandwich because the giant douche isn't palatable to you and you can't imagine not voting for the turd sandwich. Hell, you're crashing out because we're rightfully upset that no consequences for Trump will come from Dems. We're in a thread about Jeffries saying that.
I mean, y'all are telling us to vote for fucks who have literal Nazi tattoos. You're trying to get us to platform a Governor who tore down homeless encampments and hosts right-wing podcasters and platforms their horrid views. Last election, Kamala paraded fucking Liz Cheney around as an endorsement. That's somehow "winner" behavior worthy of alienating leftists over while also blaming them for that gun you're holding and aiming at your foot.
If you wanted something different you wouldn’t be taking this “my way or the highway” stance when you know you don’t have the votes to win.
If I show you an example of a trans person with a nazi tattoo would you accuse all trans people of being Nazis? Of course not because that is an obvious bad faith argument made by cherry picking exceptions. The group isn’t responsible for the actions of the individual.
Or do you feel we should blame Bernie for the actions of Fetterman and Sinema?
This is a good example of why leftists can’t win elections and why they are a liability to anyone that tries to court them.
In a democracy you have to find common ground with people you don’t agree with on everything. Because if you don’t, you don’t have a chance at winning like leftists.
I'm asking for better candidates and action, not "fuck you vote for me or die".
I'm talking about Graham Platner, asshole. And if dems aren't responsible for their party members who caucus under them, primary with them, and get endorsed by them, who is?
Do you own a mirror?
Leftists aren’t asking anything, they are demanding that the majority of voters do what a small minority of leftists want without trying to win over voters. They do this while attacking the Democratic Party that give leftists a platform. Oblivious to the fact that it makes them unpopular with democrat voters.
The obvious answer that shouldn’t need to be explained to you is Voters. In a democracy voters decide these things and when leftist don’t vote they contribute to the outcome you’re complaining about.
Obviously I do. I’ve been holding it up to your face and you don’t seem to like what you see.
Anyway I am clearly just feeding the trolls at this point. I'm just going to block and move on, holy shit.