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Talk to some of the people who are paid to put up with you sometime. Ask them when the last time they had a vacation was. Ask them if they can afford to see a doctor. Ask them if they have insurance, a car, stable housing. And then tell them how great it is that travel is cheap and watch their eyes.
Yeah, the cost of travel is the least of my worries, because I actually have worries. And I don't need some privileged asshole telling me that.
Bali, like a month ago.
She's vietnamese, healthcare is so cheap there, and I think she qualifies for some level of national insurance.
She has a CB1000 with a bluecard, somehow. Which is insane in vietnam for so many reasons.
Yes.
This is atypical, for every person like hers in Hanoi, there's a situation like Sa Pa where 100K wealthier people moved in from other parts of vietnam, bought up the tourist land, and pretend to be local, while a good portion of the locals found making their kids beg is more profitable than anything else, and due to autonomy the government only seems to have power to stop this during school hours/nights.
So it proves nothing. But you'll still use it to justify an industry based on exploitation.
The industry itself isn't exploitative, but it causes a minority of locals to accumulate capital, which may be used to capture even more of the tourism income, creating the situation you describe where they might choose to kick grandma out of her home for profit.
But this isn't universal. Plenty of places have strong communities that resist the natural tendency of capitalism at this scale.
First of all, ALL industry is exploitative. Second, tell me you've never worked in a hotel without saying you've never worked in a hotel.
Industry isn't inherently exploitative wtf, it's just capitalism that makes it so.
Then until we get a non-exploitative economic system, you can stop pretending that the tourism industry isn't exploitative.
When I'm riding my bike across vietnam or taking trains across China and sleeping in hostels/hotels, some of which the owner's family literally lives in or down the street from, who is being exploited? Not every place handles tourism the same.
When someone works full time at a hotel in the United States and cannot afford to live, you are FUCKING DELIGHTED that they're being exploited. Stop using your gap year to justify exploitation, tourist.
Bro I worked full time in the US and couldn't afford to live, that's why I left. What you're describing is specific to certain locations, not tourism as a concept.
And yet you cannot understand why some people who are exploited within a system that encourages entitled behavior might not like tourists very much.
Glad you had a good experience, tourist.
I can understand why you might not like tourists in your town, where their money goes to the people who are exploiting you, furthering their ability to do so, but that's because your town is ruled by bourgeoisie tyrants. I also understand why that's dumb, because the problem isn't the tourists or tourism. It's specific to your local area's inability to control your bourgeoisie.
I understand that you think I deserve to be exploited.
Nothing I've said suggests I think exploitation due to capitalism is just. I feel like you're not even listening to me.
I feel like you're so enamored with tourism that you don't care who it hurts and are willing to blame exploitation on the exploited if that's what it takes to avoid introspection.
I have pointed out, in nearly every post on the subject, that the blame lies with the landlords and bourgeois.
And the inability of the powerless to control them.
This depends on the specific location. Nobody is being exploited if I stay in some hostel or an hotel in a place with so much housing availability rent is <300USD.