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[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

This is atypical

So it proves nothing. But you'll still use it to justify an industry based on exploitation.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 4 days ago

The industry itself isn't exploitative, but it causes a minority of locals to accumulate capital, which may be used to capture even more of the tourism income, creating the situation you describe where they might choose to kick grandma out of her home for profit.

But this isn't universal. Plenty of places have strong communities that resist the natural tendency of capitalism at this scale.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

The industry itself isn’t exploitative

First of all, ALL industry is exploitative. Second, tell me you've never worked in a hotel without saying you've never worked in a hotel.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 4 days ago

Industry isn't inherently exploitative wtf, it's just capitalism that makes it so.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Then until we get a non-exploitative economic system, you can stop pretending that the tourism industry isn't exploitative.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 4 days ago

When I'm riding my bike across vietnam or taking trains across China and sleeping in hostels/hotels, some of which the owner's family literally lives in or down the street from, who is being exploited? Not every place handles tourism the same.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

When I’m riding my bike across vietnam or taking trains across China and sleeping in hostels/hotels, some of which the owner’s family literally lives in or down the street from, who is being exploited?

When someone works full time at a hotel in the United States and cannot afford to live, you are FUCKING DELIGHTED that they're being exploited. Stop using your gap year to justify exploitation, tourist.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 3 days ago

When someone works full time at a hotel in the United States and cannot afford to live,

Bro I worked full time in the US and couldn't afford to live, that's why I left. What you're describing is specific to certain locations, not tourism as a concept.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

And yet you cannot understand why some people who are exploited within a system that encourages entitled behavior might not like tourists very much.

Glad you had a good experience, tourist.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 3 days ago

And yet you cannot understand why some people who are exploited within a system that encourages entitled behavior might not like tourists very much.

I can understand why you might not like tourists in your town, where their money goes to the people who are exploiting you, furthering their ability to do so, but that's because your town is ruled by bourgeoisie tyrants. I also understand why that's dumb, because the problem isn't the tourists or tourism. It's specific to your local area's inability to control your bourgeoisie.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I understand that you think I deserve to be exploited.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 3 days ago

Nothing I've said suggests I think exploitation due to capitalism is just. I feel like you're not even listening to me.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I feel like you're so enamored with tourism that you don't care who it hurts and are willing to blame exploitation on the exploited if that's what it takes to avoid introspection.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 3 days ago

I have pointed out, in nearly every post on the subject, that the blame lies with the landlords and bourgeois.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I have pointed out, in nearly every post on the subject, that the blame lies with the landlords and bourgeois.

And the inability of the powerless to control them.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 3 days ago

This depends on the specific location. Nobody is being exploited if I stay in some hostel or an hotel in a place with so much housing availability rent is <300USD.

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