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US tech firms successfully lobbied EU to keep datacentre emissions secret
(www.theguardian.com)
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I keep reading about lobbying. I don’t fully understand how it works. Are there requirements for disclosure, approval and public transparency, or is this just something individual politicians or groups can do just like that?
Its just bribes, but, like, formal.
It's a bribe by another name.
It's not an illegal bribe, if we legalise it and call it lobbying. *taps head
But why do individual politicians or groups have the power to get these things through? Is it not subjected to a majority vote or something?
Because a free society does require the ability for citizens to petition their government (imo).
Corporate lobbying is just what happens when that's not properly regulated
because you need individual votes to make up any majority
So the lobbying is, in each particular instance, of potentially 100+ people (in the case of EU parliament 300 or so +), likely across parties? That seems difficult to organize, at first sight.
Lobbyists are people working on behalf of companies whose job is to meet up with politicians to discuss their issues. Typically that involves some back and forth that may or may not be considered bribery.
You want a law to protect your business? You go talk to lawmakers behind closed doors about how some laws are needed to better protect children and also data centers, and subtly let them know that maybe your company might have a job for them in the future.
Those lawmakers then go out and propose these laws and they sell the idea to other lawmakers who approve them for the children and datacenters.
So mostly not a consequence specifically of lobbying, if the majority votes due to actual conviction. Rather of disinformation/laziness, which will affect non-lobby initiated proposals too.
Lobbying on its own is not the issue. Nurses' lobbies and teachers' lobbies, for example, work for a good cause.
The issue is that lobbying is done in private, and citizens don't hear about anything until laws are proposed, by which time they already have momentum and are very hard to fight. And once laws are enacted, it's even harder to reverse them.
Yeah, it is indeed external influence which somewhat competes with democracy. What’s really bad is the reaching of consensus within the government via mostly trust in designated experts, instead of the voters individually studying the topic.
It’s supposed to be a way (groups of) people can make their case to the legislative branch to inform them about their issues and propose ways to resolve them.
In reality it’s just legal corruption used by magacorporations to screw over the aforementioned people.
The reality of the situation is more or less clear, but it helps to understand how things are supposed to work. They make their case and then what? does the audience decide on its own? Otherwise it seems difficult to buy the entire.. voting majority?
Not everything is voted on of course, some things are just decided by smaller committees.
And for things that are voted on they “buy” few vocal debaters who convince the rest with bad reasoning that sounds legit.
The part with the smaller committees sounds anti-democratic. The later is a different problem (politicians being misinformed/lazy is not specific to lobbying)
It’s the way the world works. Not every decision can go through a plenary session. Nothing would get done that way.
The latter is obviously not specific to lobbying, but it is the way they get their plans across. Not everyone in the parliament can be as well informed about every issue they vote on. If everyone had to read in to every detail of every single issue that they vote on, again nothing would get done.
So if we want to get things done we need to accept that the system isn’t flawless. That doesn’t mean we can’t curb lobbying though. We need to improve the regulations on that. But of course, it is strongly opposed by lobbyists who hold a lot of power.