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[-] tellah@sh.itjust.works 79 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Meanwhile cannabis beverages are required to have:

-Nutrition facts including calories, sugar, etc.

-Gigantic yellow warning with random health warning (e.g., don't use if pregnant)

-Huge red stop sign cannabis leaf logo

-KEEP OUT OF REACH OF CHILDREN

-Big pain in the ass plastic childproof thing

None of these required on a can of beer.

From a harm reduction perspective, it's a massive failure. Many cannabis beverages have very low nearly zero calories, sugar-free. For your physical health they are almost certainly less harmful than alcohol and I know many people would enjoy them as an alternative to alcohol.

We have faced a similar failure in harm reduction strategy regarding vaping versus tobacco. I think in both cases it's a result of vested interests (tax revenue, lobbying, don't know) trumping what is best for people.

[-] bl4ckblooc@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

The way Canada has handled cannabis legalization is embarrassing.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 33 points 2 years ago

We're still ahead of the people who haven't legalised it or even criminalise it, though.

[-] bl4ckblooc@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

That’s not something to be proud of. Just because someone does it worse doesn’t mean you should be proud of how it’s done.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I'm not saying we should rest on our laurels.

[-] jcrm@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

To who? Because we're still the only country with it fully legalized for recreational use. I fail to see how that's embarrassing at all.

We used to have weird rules on alcohol too, and just like those, cannabis rules have been getting better as time has gone on. You can't expect a world first system to be perfect right out of the gate.

[-] Rumblestiltskin@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago

It seems good to me. If people want it they can get it now.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

That was always true though. The difference now is consistency

[-] DagonPie@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

Yeah federally across the whole country? Sounds terrible.

[-] bl4ckblooc@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

If you simplify anything that much it seems like a great idea. You obviously don’t know much about the Cannabis Act.

[-] DagonPie@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Oooooobviously

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago

To me the worst part is allowing at parks, so now myself or young kids have to experience the stench of some asshat not caring about fellow citizens and they recreation time.

[-] Tired8281@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

This is what happens when you have a large segment of the population that is both opposed to something, and not terribly against acting in bad faith. You get poison pills in your regulations.

[-] Hyperi0n@lemmy.film 1 points 2 years ago

Cannabis, unlike alcohol and tobacco, has a high chance of causing long term and devastating effects on youth. This is a fact proven by science. Ease of access to alcohol should be heavily reduced and warnings should be places on them, Conservative ran alcohol lobbies always block that idea.

Vaping has been scientifically proven to be just as bad, if not worse for you health not to mention the negative environmental factor. It should follow the same path as tobaccos; no branding, no labels, health warning, removal of flavors, fines for vaping in public spaces.

[-] bjorney@bjorney.lol 7 points 2 years ago

high chance of causing long term and devastating effects on youth.

There is a substantial body of evidence proving alcohol is extremely bad for brain development

[-] Hyperi0n@lemmy.film 1 points 2 years ago

I'm only aware of studies of the parents drinking while pregnant. Either way, I'm already in favour of higher control on alcohol.

[-] tellah@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

Surprised to hear someone so confidently asserting that more prohibition is necessary. None of what you suggested really aligns with harm reduction and I would argue that more restrictions on vaping and on alcohol would backfire in terms of black market availability and less regulatory oversight.

I'm unaware of the proof that vaping is as bad or worse than tobacco. My understanding is that the consensus is vaping, while harmful, is significantly less harmful than smoking tobacco. https://www.kcl.ac.uk/news/vaping-substantially-less-harmful-than-smoking-largest-review-of-its-kind-finds

And for the record, typically how it works when you want to make a claim about proof and evidence is that you cite your sources. You can't simply use hyperbolic language, wave your hands and say the magic word "science" and expect people to just believe you.

[-] Hyperi0n@lemmy.film 1 points 2 years ago

I never said anything about prohibition but stricter regulation.

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