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Japan finds a way to recover 90% of lithium from old EV batteries
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Sodium batteries? Of course it depends on their use a bit.
Those are not “better” batteries chemically or electrically. They are just cheaper and don’t use lithium which is considered a feature.
Cheaper is a kind of better.
Cheap, high longevity, high capacity. You can't have all three.
What's better depends on application. I don't want a cheap battery in my car if I only get 80 miles on a charge.
Go reread the thread. You're (hopefully unintentionally) arguing against using sodium batteries for grid storage because lithuim has more energy density.
Cost, high longevity, and heat tolerance are way more important for grid storage than energy density. Sodium batteries are perfect for that, and were poised to start being supplied for that application until the price of lithium tanked at the start of the year.
Also, the sodium batteries that are (and were) about to go to market have enough energy density that manufacturers were considering adding them to cars by mixing and matching sodium and lithium cells in varying ratios to match various use cases. The two chemistries aren't mutually exclusive in any field
More my comment was an extreme oversimplification. The point is more so that every type of battery chemistry has pros and cons and there's no silver bullet "better" battery. Every application has different demands and constraints and must be looked at individually, as you iterated on regarding grid storage.
you can get as much range as you want with just making the battery bigger.
Which definitely has no diminishing returns whatsoever 😅
Sodium battery performance is better in the cold.
Currently some sodium battery products are out in the market and aren't appreciably cheaper yet and the answer to 'why' was 'cold weather performance'.
Sodium batteries are cheaper, safer, and last longer than lithium batteries. That's exactly what you want for grid-scale energy storage. So yes, sodium IS better than lithium for grid-scale energy storage
They are also fine for cars that don't need to have 1000km of range, for some stupid reason.
And you can even mix-and-match cells of both types in a vehicle to better fit a target demographic. It's not simply one or the other.
That being said, it's better to have a car with a 200 mile range sodium battery and a small range extender for that 2-4 times per year trip
That's great for grid storage. Maybe one day for even EV use, emphasis on maybe. But you'll never have a cell phone with a sodium battery
where do people get their science.
And that's why I said it's not happening. These batteries are far too heavy for cell phones. That's an increase in weight I would gladly accept, but I don't expect it to catch on.
Most of the weight in a phone is from the battery so to get an idea find a second cellphone and hold it with yours and that is the new weight. Ironically my cellphone is only 170g. Meaning that just the battery from your article is 2x the weight of my phone. I would gladly carry that for the increased battery life alone, but many will not.
Hope I'm wrong though and we do adopt it, or maybe they figure out how to make these batteries even lighter.
That day is already today. They need better density for digital devices, probably, but with all these advancements, who knows.