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lets stop thinking guys
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the US system is broken, this is what happens when there is only two choices 🥲
Sadly, similar stuff does happen even when you have more parties.
In my opinion, what's happening here is that the policies of the parties do not align with the opinions of the public. If you care about not doing a genocide, there wasn't a candidate to vote for last cycle. If you care about universal health care, there wasn't a candidate to vote for. And so on.
And you can measure this. Research has been carried out into the congruence between policy and public opinion in the US. For example, in the paper Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens, it was found that the impact the average American (as a group) has on policy is miniscule compared to the influence of economic elites. You and I don't benefit from invading Iran, but the owning class sure does, so that's what we do. All this is independent of who's in charge.
And so now you might rightly theorize that since there are only two parties, the democrats can fully cater to billionaires, as long as they're less bad than the republicans. And as time goes on they move further and further right, since they really don't have to care about voters, because the only other party consists of actual demons, and people will vote for them anyway.
However, you see this effect (the wealthy having a disproportionate amount of influence on policy) in pluralistic systems as well. Norway has about 9 major political parties, yet the study Affluence and Influence in a Social Democracy finds that here too, the rich have an outsized influence. Similar studies exist for other western European countries, most of which (if not all) have more than two major parties.
So I don't think the root of the problem is the two party system (although I'm sure it doesn't help).
So you have an average normal politician running against literally Hitler. And people vote for literally Hitler.
And you don't think the problem is the people voting for literally Hitler?
Don't get me wrong, the US voting system is also bad. But that is really, really not the main problem here...
Funding a genocide is not normal.
IMO the bigger problem is that the "average normal politician" managed to be so bad that voters didn't feel motivated to vote against Hitler.
This should have been a slam dunk - and there were literally a number of easy ways to motivate voters, like promising to stop the ongoing genocide the country is funding. But when given the choice between "letting Hitler win" and "stopping the genocide", Harris and the entire DNC leadership chose to let Hitler win.
Isn't that deeply fucked up?
It was a slam dunk. I still know trump supporters who think everything negative said about him is a lie. Why did this never happen in human history before (an unrelenting smear campaign running for over a decade against an innocent man)? Meh I dunno something about woke.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Harris's win obviously wasn't a slam dunk, she lost.
yeah but she COULD have won retroactively if we browbeat people who already vote blue for the next ten years about it
Yeah... Were totally mad at people who voted blue. You're so right. 😬
I meant she was the obvious choice to anyone with >3 working neurons.
She was! But since a rather large portion of the US public seems to have 0-3 neurons, it's not enough to be the obvious choice for everyone else.
Harris and her campaign knew this. They had polls clearly showing that she's so bad at motivating voters that she'll likely lose.
your whole comment is provably false. claming the attack on the 7. was a genocide is laughably false.
do not forget that Israel has made gaza a concentration camp long before that time.
I linked a source (Well, a wiki article which itself link sources). You spew bullshit.
“Gaza did a genocide in Israel” is actually fucking insane.
It's not insane, it's a rhetorical tactic. "OK, fine, Israel is doing a genocide - but they did it to us first!".
you linked the wikipedia article. it's allegations. if you had read it you would first notice that the allegations are about "intent" and genocide. As the power imbalance is laughably.
The empire long called the rebellion murderes with genocidal intent. When the rebellion hit what they could, the empire killed their own to avoid hostages. The empire then told all that the rebels had murdered babies and made up other lies to make the rebels look bad.
So are the current allegations against Israel, right?
To be more than allegations, there would have to be a ICC judgement in either case, I think?
Just because you are laughably weak, it does not mean you can't do evil.
lol. if its a genocide then US has done one just now when bombing a school
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Palestine?wprov=sfla1
"uhm palestinians can do gencide too, i promise they are evil tooo" lol. imagine being a shill for evil nazi empire 🤷
Do you even know what a logical argument is?
logic is a feeling, and is just as good a basis for argumentation as anger is.
also. I support hamas. I would have been worse than them if I had to grow up in concentration camp gaza and see the world do nothing. seeing the zionists kill our children, steal our water, demolish homes and wells and kill crops.
Lmao
Ah, you are OK with terrorism. This is my total lack of surprise.
Thought terminating cliche, nothing unexpected from this user.
"I can excuse genocide but I draw the line at scary terrorism*"
*Terrorism is when brown people fight back
And you're obviously ok with genocide, apartheid, and settler-colonialism. In comparison to that, "terrorism" isn't that bad. Especially when it's only "terrorism" when the victims fight back.
and you just sit on the sidelines saying "uhm actsjually both sides bad"
Terrorist is just the other side of rebellion.
I did actually say that Israel's initial invasion of Gaza was legally and morally justified...
I don't feel like I am just saying "both sides bad". I point out specific actions to be good or bad.
right. but you are ignoring the entire history that came before oktober 7. the decades of injustice, occupation, murders and so forth.
what else can the palestinian people do other than fight back?
edit: to add and clarify.
if 7. oktober justifies Israel going into gaza and doing all their shit there - then the earlier history between israel and palestine would justify attacks against israel.
ah. right forgot you beilive zionist lies.
The oslo accords were breached by Israel. they have not kept to a single agreement ever reached. The goal of hamas is no israeli state, but a palestinian state, in which jews can live as well.
but lol you keep saying "but hamas bad too, and cant solve it" as if hamas started this.
Israel created hamas. it would not have existed without them. Empire creates so-called "terrorists"
A wiki page listing people who have called it a genocide doesn't exactly prove that it was one, and regardless the israelis have long been oppressing the people in gaza, including illegally capturing land by force for many years, so them striking back would be less a genocide and more an act of war, a warcrime in this instance as they largely attacked civillians, but so does israel which is why both the leader of hamas and israel are wanted war criminals
It's like saying the slave revolts in ancient rome were genocides because the slaves were attacking romans, who else were they supposed to attack? And could you really blame them for striking back at their oppressors?
Ideally it would have been resolved peacefully but the international community turned a blind eye to what was happening, and israel sure as hell wasn't about to stop out of the kindness of their heart
That is not how it started shut the fuuuck up.
If you had this system in Europe you would not like the results. Best outcome: 200 years of middle of the road conservative shit Christian party
Yeah, I agree. If this can ever happen all you can really say is that us culture is cancer.
The system is not broken. It's functioning exactly as intended.
It really is a fundamentally broken system.
Yes but more importantly this is what happens when people are so ignorant and uneducated that someone like Trump makes it past a humiliating response to a social media post about him considering a run for president. Then he is a horrible president, killing thousands of citizens through negligence, commits an insurrection, and voters are like "I dunno he's not that bad. He's male at least"
More importantly, he should have been charged for all the crimes he did in his first term. Shouldn't have even been able to run from his prison cell, or at least not between all the court cases he'd need to be worrying about.
SCOTUS ruled that the POTUS cant be charged with literal crimes while in office, so...yeah.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that happened after Trump was reelected, meaning there were four whole years of Biden as president where he was never prosecuted.
Because he didn't lose the 2020 election remember, Biden stole it. So therefore he never left office and was covered.
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Truthfully, I'm not sure why it seemed to be retroactively applied to his first term. Reality is probably because its all fucking corrupt so of course it did.