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this post was submitted on 06 Apr 2026
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This is for strictly mildly interesting material. If it's too interesting, it doesn't belong. If it's not interesting, it doesn't belong.
This is obviously an objective criteria, so the mods are always right. Or maybe mildly right? Ahh.. what do we know?
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Luckily clicking a checkbox is not legally binding with regard to such terms of service.
What is hidden in these terms is of course their abuse of your personal information, which probably is enough for plausible deniability.
But there's a reason these companies are regularly fined in EU, and that is that their practices are often illegal, despite they "allow themselves" to do it by their own terms.
Is their ToS fully legal in the US or are parts of them illegal there too?
Do they have more money than you?
If they do, chances are you would somehow lose in court, and even if you have the spirit of the law on your side.
I wouldn't bet on consumer protection in USA, and I've seen many TOS documents that were CLEARLY illegal in EU, but legal in USA. But that was back in the 90's where I worked with parallel import of software and hardware from USA.
We were occasionally contacted because the import of software at way cheaper prices than they were available here in EU, was against the TOS.
Usually we were not contacted again after my first response to them, that they could shove their American legalese shit where the sun doesn't shine, US law has no bearing in Europe, and the TOS containing just 1 illegal clause invalidates the whole thing here. 🤣 🤣 🤣
Thats crazy, i was expecting that just the illegal clauses would be invalid
Not here, as I understand it, it's pretty general that if a contract has an illegal clause, it invalidates the entire contract. As in it removes other special clauses even if they are legal.
I've read many contracts which explicitly state that any part being invalidated does not invalidate the remaining parts.
Invalidating this clause would then invalid the whole thing de facto
Yep, doesn't work in my country at least (Denmark). And since that clause is illegal IDK if that alone can invalidate it?