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[-] duncan_bayne@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Isn't it, though? Would any of the technological - and often scientific - breakthroughs of the 20th and 21st centuries have been possible without industrialisation?

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

since a counterfactual can't be proven, we will probably never know

[-] duncan_bayne@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Okay, but we can say with confidence that they all did require prior industrialisation in the way they panned out, and also, have never happened in any preindustrial society. That's at least a solid hint.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

can say with confidence that they all did require prior industrialisation in the way they panned out

we can only say that they happened after, not that industrialization was necessary

[-] duncan_bayne@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

In every single case, with no counterexamples.

How would you bet $100 on this?

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago
[-] duncan_bayne@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

First non industrialised society to send a person into orbit themselves, and fetch them back alive?

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