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As the AI market continues to balloon, experts are warning that its VC-driven rise is eerily similar to that of the dot com bubble.

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[-] higgsone@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

NFTs yes but crypto is absolutely not a bubble. People are saying that for decades now and it hasn't been truth. Yes there are shitcoins, just shitstocks. But in general, it's definitely not a bubble but an alternative investing method beside stocks, gold etc.

[-] qwertyWarlord@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Crypto is 100% a bubble. It's not an investment so much as a ponzi, sure you can dump money into it and maybe even make money, doesn't mean it doesn't collapse on a whim when someone else decides to dip out or the government shuts it down. Its value is exactly that of NFT's because it's basically identical, just a string of characters showing "ownership" of something intangible

[-] stealin@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Whatever man, used electricity will become valuable someday, I just know it.

[-] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Being able to pay for things anonymously is very valuable to me and to many other people. That's just one example of what this technology can be used for.

[-] zouden@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Bitcoin isn't anonymous yet it's the most valuable crypto. Monero is barely used. Most crypto people just want to get rich, they don't actually care about using it.

100% a bubble

[-] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I could go to the local ATM and buy Bitcoin anonymously right now. So, unlike a credit card, it can be used anonymously. Monero is better of course and it doesn't matter how many people use it. Even if a store doesn't accept it directly, you can use it to buy gift cards for any store.

I don't care what most crypto people do, it's irrelevant, just like the price is irrelevant and doesn't affect my ability to use this technology.

[-] primalanimist@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago

I could go to the local ATM and buy Bitcoin anonymously right now So you walk around the city with your face covered, only buy stuff with cash, and never ride in your personally owned vehicle or the vehicle of a friend?

The ATM has a transaction time and your bitcoin transaction record. There are enough cameras in the cities near ATMs (for this very reason) that you can be tracked if the government found you as interesting as you think you might be.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This person probably thinks venmo is anonymous too.

You'd be better off going to the ATM and getting cash and then using that cash for your purchase if you wanted to remain anonymous.

Bitcoin keeps a transaction log that's integral to the technology behind it, and is retained longer than fucking Chase Manhattan transaction logs.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[-] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Mail cash in an envelope if you're that concerned about it.

[-] tabular@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I know of only ProtonMail which lets you mail money.

[-] Patius@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It's not even a ponzi scheme, it's just a good old fashioned bubble.

It's digital tulips.

[-] Platomus@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

The only way for someone to make money in crypto is for someone else to lose it.

Crypto is a scam.

[-] Aagje_D_Vogel@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago
[-] Platomus@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

What is that even suppose to mean in this context?

[-] CustodialTeapot@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Sooooo, the exact same premise with ehmmmm.... Stocks.

[-] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You don't understand how stocks work.

[-] higgsone@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

So what's the difference to money, stocks or every other investing option? There's has to be someone who loses so someone different can win. We're living in a capitalistic system, that's how it works.

[-] bigschnitz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Money isn't an investment, it's a currency. Of course it's a bad investment and investing in forex is barely a better investment than crypto (purely because there's less risk of a sovereign currency devaluing to 0).

Investing in capital, like stocks, property, equipment etc does not require someone to lose money for the capital owner to profit. If I invest in a stock, each year I'm paid a dividend based on the profits of that organisation - no losers required. I could later sell that stock at the exact price I paid for it and come away with profit from those dividends. What determines whether it's a good or bad investment, is the ratio of profit to the capital owner to cost of the asset. Crypto generates 0 profit, so it has 0 value as a capital investment.

[-] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

How is distributed ledger a scam? It's nothing new and we know exactly how it works. It has nothing to do with making money. If I use it to pay for things online how am I getting scammed? I'm sorry, but it seems you don't fully understand what this technology is.

[-] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The blazing fast technology that allows for up to 7 transactions a second worldwide? Amazing.

Don't forget to pay your capital gains tax when you sell your butts online to buy your pizza.

[-] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The slow transaction speed is a valid criticism, but it doesn't make this technology a scam. Different cryptocurrencies have different speeds. With Litecoin I think it takes me 40 minutes to pay for something. I still prefer that over being tracked by my bank or having to use PayPal. I think you can pay instantly with Dash, but I haven't used it.

I don't sell anything online, so what are you talking about?

[-] qaz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

NFTs yes but crypto is absolutely not a bubble. People are saying that for decades now and it hasn’t been truth. Yes there are shitcoins, just like shitstocks. But in general, it’s definitely not a bubble but an alternative investing method beside stocks, gold etc.

What is the underlying mechanism that increases its value, like company earnings are to stocks? Otherwise, it's just a reverse funnel scheme.

[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
[-] Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That video is probably the biggest piece of misinformation about cryptocurrency on YouTube and it's sad to see that so many people have been fooled by it. Most people are so bad at understanding modern technology that they will believe a random youtuber who has no idea what he is talking about :(.

Cryptocurrency is just a distributed ledger. NFT is just a certificate of ownership. Those technologies have real uses and nothing about them makes them a scam.

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