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[-] stoly@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I’m almost 50 doing a doctorate in engineering. ChatGPT is very helpful to do homework but won’t really teach you to do things. That said, I’m very glad to have it because this program would be so much harder without something to check my answers and understanding.

[-] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 60 points 3 weeks ago

...except that it doesn't really "check your answers and understanding"...

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Sure it does. It’s a calculator and can tell me if I did my statistics homework correctly. I can also ask it to summarize a concept I find difficult.

[-] gartheom@lemmy.world 50 points 3 weeks ago

If you want a calculator, try an actual calculator or a website that actually does math like Wolfram alpha.

A chatbot can't actually do math. It can only give you an answer that looks right because it has no fundamental understanding of what "right" actually is.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

Love Wolfram. I believe Stephen is a big proponent of this stuff? Found his blog on it (turns three years old next Monday) and curious for your thoughts on it.

In Just Two and a Half Months…

Early in January I wrote about the possibility of connecting ChatGPT to Wolfram|Alpha. And today—just two and a half months later—I’m excited to announce that it’s happened! Thanks to some heroic software engineering by our team and by OpenAI, ChatGPT can now call on Wolfram|Alpha—and Wolfram Language as well—to give it what we might think of as “computational superpowers”. It’s still very early days for all of this, but it’s already very impressive—and one can begin to see how amazingly powerful (and perhaps even revolutionary) what we can call “ChatGPT + Wolfram” can be.

https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2023/03/chatgpt-gets-its-wolfram-superpowers/

[-] baines@lemmy.cafe 38 points 3 weeks ago

until it hallucinates

who the fuck wants a calculator that gives out the wring answer every 5th time

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago

With that naivety you are setting yourself up for failure.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I have a long, successful career. I am doing this program for personal growth and to create a challenge for myself. Please stop projecting your impressions on my life, I am my own person and very confident in what I have accomplished.

Edit: I got downvoted for being confident in my successes. Really?

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago

I am not objecting to you to learn something new. The naivety is what you display assuming you can use LLMs to "check your homework".

[-] sheetzoos@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

This is an echo chamber. Logical and rational thoughts will be downvoted if they go against the narrative. Don't take it personally.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah I didn’t realize just how deeply people were into the projected angst before now. Thank you.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago

i dont know if you're trolling but you would be making a pretty poor engineer if you are using a something to check your answers that may or may not be right, and not use an actual engineering calculator. how would you know your answers are correct in the forest place if you took them from an LLM. its literally just equivalant to finding the answers on a website and copy and pasting it to your hw, you arnt learning anything, and people who done that have been shown to do very poorly on tests.

[-] redwattlebird@thelemmy.club 22 points 3 weeks ago

No, it actually doesn't. How LLMs work is that it takes in written words and makes a sentence based on the likelihood of what the next word will be based on human readable text. That's literally it.

Hence, there's absolutely no guarantee that ChatGPT's 'review' of your homework will always be 100% correct because it is probable that the answer was written incorrectly in the billions of lines of text it has been fed.

On the other hand, a calculator has been superficially wired for it's purpose to process an input. 1 + 1 will always equal 2.

I'd wager your supervisor will be horrified to learn that you're getting an LLM to learn from rather than your peers. This is why i absolutely hate that it's being used as a substitute what essentially makes us human: art, music, research, learning etc.

It's a tool that needs a licence because you need to know how to use it to complement your existing skills, not supplement it.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

We’re allowed to use them. We just have to provide the prompt used and the answer given.

[-] redwattlebird@thelemmy.club 2 points 3 weeks ago

Ah very interesting. Still, it's a shame cutting out the peer to peer discussions to expand one's own learning and understanding.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

To do an in person degree I’d have to quit my job. I have been waiting for years for a program like this. That said, doing it in person would be a better experience and I wish I’d had the opportunity to do something like that years ago.

TLDR; should have had my doctorate years ago. I went to Argentina and had to abandon my work when the economy collapsed.

[-] redwattlebird@thelemmy.club 3 points 3 weeks ago

For sure; nothing beats in person but you have to make do with what you can. I wish you the best of luck in your doctorate (from another mature age student and soon to be commencing Masters).

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Ooh good luck! I hope you find it fulfilling.

[-] theBATCLAM@piefed.social 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The thing is; you have the experience and knowledge necessary to understand when you are being fed wrong information when it hallucinates. You have come this far not needing a machine to think for you and are not useless without it.

I had a networking lab in which we were faced with using an Aruba layer 3 switch, after learning Cisco all semester. The point was for us to research Aruba commands, and rather than even try to look up any actual references or the information provided by our professor they immediately tried to ask chat, which proceeded to keep giving them CLEARLY Cisco commands. Despite me expaining this they chose to ignore me until a half hour of failed commands later lead then to give up and just wait for me to try and figured it out.

Btw I am, by no means a genius. I actually think I am of average intelligence, and I'm okay with that. But I have become one of the smartest/go to people in most of my classes because once chatgpt cannot figure it out they genuinely don't know what to do. They just don't understand how to think for themselves.

[-] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Learned helplessness. There is nothing more shameful then just giving up after the obvious route is exhausted.

It's like this a lot with family, like show me you made an effort to troubleshoot, otherwise you're just demonstrating you think your time is more valuable then mine to do the whole rigamorole

[-] fushuan 17 points 3 weeks ago

Using AI to help with assignments in education is like using a forklift in the gym. You are taking stats for everyone else and undermining your opportunity to learn and train your brain.

You are paying to get the opportunity to train your brain and educate yourself, a d are squandering the chance by using AI. It's not the best idea.

[-] november@piefed.blahaj.zone 15 points 3 weeks ago

this program would be so much harder without something to check my answers and understanding.

Do students these days not have study buddies?

[-] MartianRecon@lemmus.org 5 points 3 weeks ago

Gen Alpha can barely look people in the eyes when they're talking.

[-] forestbeasts@pawb.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

Ah yes "looking people in the eyes while talking", famously something actually important and meaningful and not just literally the most well-known neurotypical "if you don't follow the expected social rules you are Wrong" demand...

-- Frost

[-] MartianRecon@lemmus.org 4 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah dude that's how norms work.

If you're staring off into space and can't talk directly to someone, you need to learn that skill.

Like, this is common sense.

[-] forestbeasts@pawb.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

Bold of you to assume "looking someone in the eye" and "talking directly" are the same thing!

Have you MET autistic people?

-- Frost

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Not when you’re in an online program and have to do it fully alone. Even when I was in a traditional situation I always had a job and never could do study groups. It’s specifically why I never studied stem previously.

[-] Arcadeep@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

You know you could also just like... Do research, like you're expected to do and is how people actually learn, but I understand that's hard and nobody has time for that. I guess you could also ask the local drunk to proofread your homework and get an answer just as likely to be correct as an AI

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks for sharing! Good luck with your doctorate!

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Thank you. I appreciate the support among a sea of personal attacks. I didn’t realize that this place had such strong tankie vibes.

[-] Arcadeep@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Distrusting an unreliable system does not make someone a tankie. Now you're just throwing out insults without even understanding them

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You: We attacked you as a group over a period of days because you're stupid and it was wrong of you to say something back. Especially when you point out that we acted towards you just the way those others do.

[-] Arcadeep@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Proof that the slop dispenser has ruined your critical thinking skills. All I said was that you don't understand what a tankie is, you're just saying words you've heard that have a negative context without knowing what the word actually means. Not criticizing you talking back

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

No, you decided long before making a comment that I was worthy of your discrimination and anything I could say would just be evidence of that. You're stuck in the circlejerk, my friend. It is time for you to learn to be kind instead of cruel.

[-] Arcadeep@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Being cruel would be letting someone hurt themselves in the long run and weaken their own ability to do something they set out to do. Being cruel would be to encourage your use of LLMs to 'learn'. You don't like the truth and that's on you, I guess, but it's not discrimination to tell you you're making mistakes. It's absolutely hilarious you would even use that word in this situation and just confirms to me that you're just a pretty convincing troll, arguing in bad faith.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Blocking you now.

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