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Ukrainian soldiers are operating the drones to defend the genocidal ethnostate and the US bases bombing Iran. This is not giving instructions, this is participation in the war.
Ironically Ukraine is sending soldiers and interceptors from their own frontlines. Guess they don't need them more than Netanyahu.
Iranian soldiers operated the drones sent by a demand of a genocidal ethnostate to bomb Ukraine. This is not giving instructions, this is participation in the war.
Now, because of involvement of these chaps, Ukraine has a technology that is in high demand in the world, for whatever reason. It's very single cellular to assume that the technology is not scalable, and that literally every person who can be involved in scaling of a technology must be digging trench somewhere in Donetsk.
Russia is not a genocidal ethnostate. Go look at the percentage of civilian casualties in the Ukraine war and the percentage in Gaza and then learn what terms mean. Russia does commit "war crimes" (whatever that word means nowadays) but they are most certainly not committing genocide.
Well they have been force-adopting ukranian chilfren into Russia, no? I am sure i read something about that. Not as cruel but still genocide i guess?
Not really, that was a hoax, Russia asked Ukraine for list of names, Ukraine provided 339 names of which 166 was immediately found living with their parents in Germany. And even if we assume all the rest are really unaccounted for, this only points how low civilian losses are in that war, something unthinkable looking at American or Israeli wars.
We really don't need to make Israel and the USA look worse here, they are achieving that on their own. I was solely talking about the claim of Russia not commiting genocide at all. There has been a bunch of reports on stuff happening in the occupied territories, i'd be carefull protecting them from genocide allegations.
I also really don't want to take up a huge-ass discussion over this in a random forum over text.
Oh wow, reports? On stuff? How very convincing.
Funny how you tried to actually present a specific claim, immediately got proven wrong, and are now retreating to unfalsifiable vagueness.
Keep children in a safe place during war is much better than keeping them among military targets and bombing them.
Talking about a genocidal ethnostate is pretty rich in a thread defending Israel and its allies
Israel and USA can go and fuck themselves with a bomb shaped dildo for all I care.
But it's they are not the only one committing genocide, and your mates from around here are making it very weird turning people suffering into genocide Olympics.
Okay, so we can agree that Israel and the US are evil.
So. What does it say about Ukraine that they are on the same side?
This is not some comic book battle between good and evil, it is perfectly possible for both USA, Israel and Russia to be evil, they are all expansionist imperial entities currently engaging in imperial land grabs. I would say they are all evil.
Ukraine and Iran were just minding their own business when the imperialists attacked. USA, Russia and Israel are all on the same shitty side of the coin. The rest of the world hates the lot of them.
It's impossible to fight the entire world all at once. I say we choose the lesser evil.
It's how you vote anyway, right? Why not just apply that on a larger scale?
Your comment implies that it is a binary choice. Lesser evil between the USA, Israel and Russia is a difficult shout, there is a cigarette paper between the three.
The three are also not the same, the USA is a far bigger threat to the world due to its military and financial might. Russia and Israel are not eating at the same table. It could probably be argued that they have the most twisted world views of the players here and I am very glad they are not in the conversation. China and the EU are the only other potentially global players. The EU are the USA's yes men who have been greatly upset to recently be told this reality to their face. China look to be an alternative but when you peel back the veneer they are closer to the USA in their set up than most people would care to admit.
The lesser evil one is a difficult argument to make, do you believe if either Israel or Russia occupied the USA's position as global hegemon that they would be better or worse?
My comment implies there is a primary contradiction, and the choice is between US hegemony and multipolarity.
There is an empire, and only once it is destroyed can we even begin dealing with any of the lesser contradictions.
There are several empires, American one is just the most powerful. The way the Chinese and the Russians treat their people does not give me hope that their empires would act any differently. Britain and France have shown they are not to be trusted either based on their past atrocities.
Would mutipolarity make things better or worse? I don't think that it matters, the fundamental nature of power and nation states make conflict and war inevitable. A multipolar world would likely make conflict more common. Can you name any wars of aggression that have honestly been done to improve the position of the country and its people and not just the elites? Vertical power structures are the problem, I would happily see the USA lose its position as hegemon but multipolarity won't change much.
The logical conclusion every country should be looking towards now should be acquiring nukes. Maybe this is the path to peace.
No. There's the global hegemon, and then there are the lesser regional powers that can't project force very far beyond their borders. Russia has been fighting for a decade over a relatively small piece of land that's literally directly on its border, it just isn't strong enough to even be an empire. There is only one empire under hegemony
That will certainly change in a multipolar world, but that means we can pit them against each other. Without a hegemon that can rally the entire imperial core against every revolutionary project, this new world will be one where revolutionaries can use imperialist rivalries to create space for themselves. Multipolarity is the precondition for revolution.
And in this new world, we'll need to reevaluate the contradictions. Russia is my enemy's enemy at this historical moment but in the new world I expect that to change. They are neoliberal capitalists, after all.
Funny that you think the Ukrainian startup model is scalable. Neither is the USonian drone program. Iran could kill every US soldier allegedly being deployed with a single drone each and it wouldn't even cut into their stockpile.
Zelensky supports nazis and child fukers and child killers. Means in retrograde it was a right choice by Iran
Zelensky is a zionist
So I guess genocide is ok? Wow that down, you pedigree chum.
Ukraine isn't being genocided. Only the regime is being changed.
The only genocide happening is in Gaza and now Lebanon.
Do you mind defining what a genocide is?
Do you? Define ethno state while you're at it
When did you decide you would just say things, meaning be damned?
A reasonable person would assume that Ukraine sending small teams over is meant to encourage, or pay back favours in terms of support in their defence against a forgein invading genocidal ethnostate. On top of wanting to help deal with Iran seeing as Iranian drones have been bombing them for years now.
So what exactly is ironic? It's very much in their best interest that Iran can no longer supply Russia with drones.
You can't use the term genocidal ethnostate for any country you don't like. Pick up a dictionary, mate.
They saw it used to describe Israel and assumed its just a synonym for "bad", because they have the political understanding of a 12 year old
Sure, so that ethnic minorities in Russia have faced disproportionat military conscriptions and sent to the front as meat waves are just coincidence then.
Ethnostates, known for their large number of ethnic minorities
Goebbels would be proud of the longevity of his bullshit. This is old nazi propaganda invented as cope to explain all the times they got outmaneuvered on the battlefield by the "Slavic untermenschen".
Iran no longer provide drones to Russis and ukraine is joining Israel who want another genocide in Iran. When are you going to call for bombing China?
Obviously not, they're busy sending whatever they have at various military bases around the region.
I'm not going to argue against Israel wanting a genocide in Iran. I agree, they do want a genocide. I agree, it is bad.
What Ukraine is doing is offering their knowledge in drone interception. Seeing as they have years of experience when it comes to intercepting Iranian shahed drones.
Probably hoping to get some additional support when/if the war in Iran ends.
Why would I call for bombings in China? When have called for bombing anywhere? Please let me know. Because I can not recall doing it even once.
Liberals aren't even pretending to think words mean things anymore