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Warnings of Iran Invasion Grow as US to Send Up to 5,000 Marines, Sailors to Middle East

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[-] Foni@piefed.zip 118 points 1 week ago

The window of opportunity to get out of this situation in the USA is closing fast, and if it's not seized soon, this mess is going to last decades, assuming a lot of deaths and an absurd amount of money that the country no longer has like it did decades ago. The shit is going to fall on everyone.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 week ago

I foresee this escalating and getting worse, leading to some catastrophic nonsense that puts our species to shame in only a matter of months.

We’re running out of helium, the strategic oil reserves are at most 20% of what’s needed, and now that wells are capped it’s to take months to get back.

As this continues Trump will get madder, dementia-ier, and try and escalate more.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 11 points 1 week ago

We aren't running out of Helium. The date at which a specific reservoir gets sold is coming closer.

[-] Man_kind@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Technically we are. We won't be out in our lifetimes, to my knowledge, but we aren't making more helium. Once its gone, its gone. So, it is running out, but on what time scale?

When will the human race start slowing down? Its eventually just going to get crazy expensive and only used when vital. And we're filling party balloons with it.

[-] ISOmorph@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The moon has a butload, if the scarcity becomes threatening there be enough financial motivation to mine it there.

[-] MigratingApe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

Isn’t this about purity or something and the helium used for party balloons wouldn’t be used in critical applications either way?

[-] despoticruin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Only because it's not currently financially viable to purify it. It's still mostly helium.

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[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

The US already sold their reserves.

[-] hector@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

What does running out of helium mean though? Bush auctioned off the helium supply for no good reason, they get it from like natural gas in Texas, but also now like South Africa or something.

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

The odds of Trump trying to nuke someone is higher than 0%. My nation has contracted rabies. 😰

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Their only strategy is to escalate and try to look stronger.

Now, the US military is not something to scoff at, but they’ll eventually end up escalating to nukes and threats of nukes, because there’s no way to win.

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[-] homura1650@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

I'm pretty sure the window is already closed. This is our second war with Iran in under a year. Both of which were started by the US/Israel; while we were actively negotiating with Iran. After the first war, we bragged about how the negotiation was a genius move by us to catch Iran with a surprise attack. The last time we had a major treaty with Iran, we unilaterally tore it up; and none of the other signatories stepped up to try and make Iran whole.

The 12 day war ended when we decided to end it. Iran agreed because no one likes getting bombed, and they assumed we had done all we had the stomach to do. However, this type of stop-and-go conflict massively favors the US. Iran's strength lies in a sustained war of attrition. Deplete our air defense systems faster than we can resupply them. Disrupt the oil market long enough to cause global shortages. Draw us into a war against an insurgency. None of this is effective if they let us decide when the conflict pauses.

Their actions show this. Mining the straight of Hormuz and bombing oil fields are not the type of action you take for a conflict you don't plan on lasting. Appoint the son of the leader we assisinated as your new leader. Those are decisions that will take months to reverse.

Also, I should mention that the current leader of Iran just had his family killed by us. And Iran was just in the middle of an internal political crisis that conveniently goes away in the face of an external one.

I don't see how we get Iran to agree to end the war without us offering some major concessions.

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

Short of offering Trump's heads on a platter, I do not think Iran would consider any overture to be sincere. Or the world, for that matter.

[-] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 26 points 1 week ago

It closed when we assassinated the former head of state and the entire family of the new head of state along with a few hundred children.

[-] Man_kind@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I am shocked that america isn't 24/7 protests.

[-] ysjet@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There's shitloads of protests going on over the matter, actually, but much like the protests against all the rest of Trump's bullshit and especially ICE, you wouldn't catch the media covering any of them, despite them being nigh-constant.

[-] Man_kind@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Show me. Why isn't lemmy full of protests?

They can stop many news outlets, but not all of them. Not all social media platforms.

The protests are small and insignificant.

They should be massive. Like the trucker convoy in Canada was.

[-] EldritchFeminity 4 points 1 week ago

You mean that one time a bunch of Canadians drove in a line?

Compared to that time a protest was staged across an area the size of Europe? From small towns with a few dozen people to capital cities? And then again? And again?

These were all literally a quick Google search away. And you know what? Almost all of them are from last year, from a couple of cities out of those national protests, because our media is captured and it's very difficult to find photos of the people scaring off ICE attempting to snatch people in broad daylight or the masses of abandoned cars in Chicago - some of them still running - from all the ICE raids. Or the community watch groups that have sprouted up to track where ICE agents are in the city. I couldn't find a single picture of the protests from Boston then where there were more protesters in the city than the total population of the city. Most of what I saw was pro-ICE propaganda from news outlets about immigrants in NYC "cheering for ICE after capture of violent gang members" and other nonsense.

[-] Man_kind@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

You should educate yourself more about the subject. Because you obviously have no fucking clue what the trucker convoy protest was.

Your little walking parades are not protests. The trucker convoy was a real protest.

I've been following American politics very closely. I am very educated on it. You have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

[-] EldritchFeminity 4 points 1 week ago

Oh, so you can dish it out but can't take it when someone else handwaves away your effort?

I'm a trans woman living in the US. I absolutely know what I'm talking about. I've been keeping up with politics since I was a pre-teen just so I could know what rights of mine were being stripped away in which states. I'm illegal in 41+ countries in the world and 20 states in my own country.

Keep thumping your chest about your little Sunday drive while people are chasing ICE agents out of their neighborhoods.

But good to know this man never led a "real protest."

[-] Man_kind@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

You definitely dont know anything about the trucker convoy, if you think anything similar has happened in the US during the Trump administration. I dont give a shit what your gender is.

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[-] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 10 points 1 week ago

Americans have a unique way of protesting enshrined in the constitution. They aren't using it

[-] ViceroTempus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have been able to talk some of my neighbors into at least saying that we'll stand together should ICE comes. But getting them to cross state lines? Or even do a Rent/Mortgage strike is just too many steps too far for most of them. Especially when take into account that it's days of travel, and you still need money for food and gas. Also our families needs food, shelter, and so on.

Surviving even at selfish costs, is unfortunately the Las Vegan way.

I at the very least thought a Rent/Mortgage strike would appeal to those selfish and apathetic, but somehow a strike that keeps your resources in your pocket is less liked than a General Strike that you have build resources for ahead of time. And arguing that we should encourage our homeless population to just take up homes that are sitting empty due to corps buying up houses for renting out was.... well let's just say I have to wait until people are more fed up before I can bring up that particular strategy again.

Hell getting people to go armed to protests has been met with hard no's even after I point out how different police act when people are armed. And that all you need to do is look at the Bundy Ranch standoff to see how much different police treat those that are armed. (The police at the time came in unarmed, and without body armor to negotiate just so they wouldn't set off the snipers).

So you want to know why we're not using the unique way of protesting? Logistics, survival, and because most Americans prefer to be livestock for the Oligarchs than to actually be wolves fighting for our liberty, and will make every excuse to just wait for the slaughter.

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

I think that if the United States we know are replaced, we will need the new Constitution to enshrine UBI. Part of that should be free fuel, food, and lodgings. By providing such things, it will be much easier for people to protest. Right now, you have to risk losing everything if you dare wander off the corporate reservations.

No work? No agency. Have work? no agency.

We must work towards ensuring agency for every single person.

[-] ViceroTempus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I've been thinking the exact same things. A New Constitution is what is required. Our Founding Fathers always planned for such events, and we were expected to rewrite The Constitution as needed, including upto building completely from new.

IMO, a government should only exist in service to the people, and when it fails at that service it needs to be reformed.

[-] hector@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

Armed protests don't always end well. Michigan in the 00's had a gay libertarian host a legalization of Marijuana petition to get the issue on the ballot, at his Rainbow ranch in like battle creek or something. Police fucked with them and the Michigan Militia showed up to defend them. State police shot the owner of the ranch with a sniper for no good reason after a bit.

[-] ViceroTempus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Your argument doesn't hold much water when the alternative currently is letting them haul you and yours to a concentration camp, and are already killing Americans in the street at unarmed protests. Context and the amount of guns being the big difference, as I could not find any evidence that the Michigan Militia was involved. Only mention of them is that they provided unarmed security for the farm before the conflict arose but we're not present for the actual standoff.

So I'm going to need a source backing up your claims.

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago

Most Americans are still not personally affected.

[-] Man_kind@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

All the ones that know what's happening are aware they are losing their freedom.

Im not bothered by maga or ignorant people not doing anything.

Its all the people that know what is happening. That think posting "release the Epstein files" will help. It would if they did it on congress' front lawn, but not in their echo chambers.

[-] Strider@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

They don't understand they are.

[-] Soulg@ani.social 2 points 1 week ago

It is actually, media ignores them

[-] Man_kind@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

There are still free social media platforms, and they aren't showing protests.

Wed see them on lemme, if it was 24/7 protests, so, you are not correct.

[-] freebee@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

It will already last decades, trust with nearly all countries in the ~~region~~ world is ruined.

But yes, get out ASAP, for damage control...

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

the window was during the bush wars, and then the collapse of 08

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