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[-] FishFace@piefed.social 12 points 3 weeks ago

If there weren't cars, there'd still be buses, vans, trucks.

[-] 18107@aussie.zone 5 points 3 weeks ago

There's a big difference between a constant stream of cars with noise from every direction, and the occasional delivery vehicle that you can hear coming.

[-] astutemural@midwest.social 4 points 3 weeks ago

Which are driven by professional, experienced drivers who get fired for driving too fast. Not average morons pissed they have to wait a whole ten seconds for a pedestrian to cross the road.

[-] TheLadyAugust@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

It sounds like this post is about pedestrians not paying attention and walking into traffic, though. It doesn't matter if they're driving too fast, if someone's not paying attention and walks out in front of a bus....

I think you're making a different but equally valid argument.

[-] astutemural@midwest.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

People walk out in front of buses all the time. Know what happens? The bus stops. Because it's going at a reasonable speed and driven by a driver that's actually good at driving. The only time this isn't the case is when it's a long-distance bus going at highway speeds. It's really simple; replacing multiple vehicles driven by amateurs with one vehicle driven by a professional will save lives, regardles of what pedestrians are doing.

[-] FishFace@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, on top of the car free fantasy, that may come to pass in a few decades, we may as well imagine that professional drivers will somehow stop driving terribly as well.

[-] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think most peoples' dreams of a walkable utopia include those things, but you make a good point.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

No, it does. The notion that urbanists want to get rid of delivery vehicles is a strawman argument used to attack us.

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