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submitted 2 days ago by mudkip@lemdro.id to c/technology@lemmy.world

Apple appears to have prematurely revealed the name of its rumored lower-cost MacBook model, which is expected to be announced this Wednesday. A regulatory document for a "MacBook Neo" (Model A3404) has appeared on Apple's website. Unfortunately, there are no further details or images available yet. While the PDF file does not contain the "MacBook Neo" name, it briefly appeared in a link on Apple's regulatory website for EU compliance purposes.

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[-] Xirup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 86 points 2 days ago

I can get a better PC than that for $400.

Are you sure? Because at this moment with $400 you only get the RAM.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm positive, thanks. 2x8GB CL16 DDR5 RAM currently sells for <$250.

E: here's a whole ass laptop for $360

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Stream-BrightView-N4120-Graphics/dp/B0DC6KMWJS/

And it even has ports and shit

[-] blitzen@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago

here's a whole ass laptop for $360

You’re absolutely right, that is an ass laptop.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

Almost as ass as a an irreparable, unupgradeable $700 Macbook with a phone processor and 8GB of RAM.

[-] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

You're not wrong about the rest, but I wouldn't be surprised if the processor benchmarks really well.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

The processor isn't the problem. They could've put a fuckin 9850X3D in this thing and it will still run like a turd with 8GB RAM.

[-] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago

That's why I commented on you including it in what I could only read as a list of objectionable things.

[-] blitzen@lemmy.ca 3 points 23 hours ago

Now that the neo has been announced at $499 for students with twice the storage of your example, care to reevaluate the overall value differences?

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 17 hours ago

At $500 it's not a bad value. Could still do better on the used market.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago

That Celeron ain't got nothing on any phone processor Apple's made in at least the last half decade lol

I'm not sure the Macbook Neo will make sense, but I know for sure that docked tablet doesn't. They're also ass to repair, performance doesn't exist and the screen belongs in 2008.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

A fancy processor is meaningless without RAM. It's like a Lamborghini rolling on bicycle tires.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

And RAM is meaningless without a processor to use it. So I'm saying this MacBook Neo is probably kinda shit for its price, but the Stream is for sure not any good.

For the price of the MacBook Neo, the best device to get would actually be a used laptop. Either an Apple Silicon Macbook Air if you can find one with 16 GB, or some kind of a Thinkpad if you want to have more freedom.

Cheap laptops tend to suck, but used laptops in the same price range can be very good.

[-] Cort@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago

It's a celery with a 128GB emmc. Even with 16GB of ram it'll be so slow.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So pull it out and replace it. A 128GB (like Macs come with) NVMe stick is $50.

[-] Cort@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago

Emmc is not nvme. They're not compatible or interchangeable. You'll be limited by the max emmc speeds for storage. It's probably why it comes with an external drive, because they know just how slow the drive is.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago
[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I just checked out the specs, that model does not support NVMe. So yeah, there's that.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

It does. It's not listed in the specs but there are teardown videos that show it. Austin Evans did one and showed this.

[-] Cort@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Nope, still wrong. It has an e key m.2 for Wi-Fi.

Put up, or shut up.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

...no, it has NVMe. Why are you making this up?

Put up, or shut up.

...what am I supposed to "put up", exactly?

NVME is not a port. M.2 is a port, and there’s lots of versions of it. You can’t put an NVME SSD into all of them.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

Which is exactly why I specified "NVMe port" and not M.2

[-] pycorax@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

What in the world is an NVMe port?

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Jesus Christ... would you drop the pedantry? It's childish.

I mean "what is an Ethernet port? Did you mean a RJ-45 port supporting Ethernet?" "What is an ATM machine, did you mean an ATM?"

Don't be that fuckin guy.

I wonder what he could have possibly meant when he said an NVMe port?

[-] pycorax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

How in the world is that pedantic? I was genuinely asking. Yes, the reasonable expectation is that a "NVMe port" is an M2 slot but they have already mentioned that it isn't one. So what is it? Your example doesn't make sense either. There's no one here saying that their Ethernet port isn't an RJ-45.

Don't be that fuckin guy.

How about you don't be that guy and read the whole context instead of attacking me about it?

[-] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

What they said

[-] rabidhamster@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 day ago

Intel celeron N150?

I mean, yeah, technically it's got more ram, but that's literally the only thing going for it. I've got a mini-pc server with that exact CPU. It's good enough for what I need it for, by my wife's 5 generation old M1 Air from 2020 trounces it several times over in terms of speed, even with 8GB.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

An N150 w/16GB RAM is gonna be way more useful than a A16 or whatever with 8GB. Most people will never touch the potential power of their processor but they certainly will be doing a bunch of shit simultaneously.

[-] encelado748@feddit.org 21 points 1 day ago

As an owner of both an n150 minipc with 16gb of ram and an m1 8g air I can assure you this statement is false. The first is a toy compared to the latter. You can use it as inexpensive home server, but not as a work machine.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I also own both and disagree. But this isn't an M1, regardless.

[-] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 4 points 1 day ago
[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago
[-] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 3 points 1 day ago

My my, you do have a singular wit.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

Yes because your comment was so witty...?

[-] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 1 points 1 day ago
[-] rabidhamster@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

I mean, if that fits your use-case, I'm not gonna tell you not to get it. Plenty of folks just need a machine for scrolling a social media feed, documents, and Youtube.

But anyone who wants more than what amounts to a Chromebook can get it pretty affordably with the low-end macbooks. Effectively tripling your speed for another $200 is definitely worth it for lots of folks, and memory paging is a lot faster than it used to be.

Benchmarks can be hit or miss, but aren't totally useless:

N150: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+N150

Low-end M1 from 2020: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Apple+M1+8+Core+3200+MHz

And finally, the A19 they're talking about using: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Apple+A19+Pro

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

These are CPU benchmarks, they don't account for available RAM.

[-] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

This is already less powerful than an old iPad. My SO is looking for a cheap laptop and this one is one I would tell her to avoid like the plague.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Power is meaningless without RAM. It's like a Lamborghini rolling on bicycle tires.

[-] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

The bottleneck of that laptop is CPU and drive, and with 8 gigs of RAM it would still be. 16GB RAM is the only thing that laptop has going for it.

Honestly, as a Certified Apple Hater I still have no doubts that the laptop with the A18Pro will run circles around the one you showed and will be a better bang for the buck.

[-] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Better to get a used Thinkpad with how well those hold up being over thousand dollars, but get discounted steeply to hundreds with companies offloading them once warranty is up. Can get actual nice Ryzen CPUs and have a proper storage.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

True, but now you're talking about used PCs.

[-] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Yep, and used in this case is much better than the new cheap laptops with crappy specs.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

I mean that's often going to be the case. That's why you don't compare used PCs to new ones.

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