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[-] uriel238 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Do we have ways of computing orders of infinity higher than ℵ₀?

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[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Symbolically, sure, but then you're not dealing with infinities you're just representing them.

It's a meme it's playing fast and loose with things but the general gist is that mathematics, to this day, doesn't really care about Gödel/Church/Turing, incompleteness, the halting problem, whatever angle you want to look at it from. Formalists lost the war and they simply went on doing maths as if nothing had happened, as if a system could be simultaneously complete and consistent. There's people out there preaching to the unenlightened masses but it's an uphill battle.

[-] uriel238 2 points 1 year ago

We have sorta the same problem with imaginary numbers, and I remember some programmable calculators can process complex numbers using symbolic representation (which happens to work similarly to Cartesian coordinates, so that's convenient)

But from what I remember any infinity bigger than counting numbers (say the set of real numbers) cannot be differentiated from each other, so we don't have established rules.

To be fair, I last tinkered with infinities in the aughts and then as a hobbyist. The Grand Hilbert Hotel can accomodate more compound infinities and still retain perfect utilization since the last time I visited.

[-] dat_math@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

(which happens to work similarly to Cartesian coordinates, so that's convenient)

it's more than convenient, it's isomorphism!

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