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[-] teft@piefed.social 42 points 12 hours ago

Does someone have an issue with Jay’Den? I think he’s a great klingon. And who says he’s gay? He might be bi/poly like his dads.

Also his sexuality isn’t any more in your face than caleb and tarima and all their smooching.

People will seriously complain about anything won’t they?

[-] cattywampas@lemmy.world 56 points 12 hours ago

I have an issue with him being named Jayden.

[-] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I thought it was cheesy too NGL, but he's a great character

[-] teft@piefed.social 16 points 12 hours ago

See, that is a fair critique. Maybe the house of kraag was watching some human millennial shows?

[-] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 11 hours ago

It must have been another reason, or he would have been named Jeigh-Den 🤷🏼‍♂️

[-] bless@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago

Didn't you know? Everyone is straight, until they're proven gay. And only women are allowed to be bi. /s

[-] Ftumch@lemmy.today 8 points 10 hours ago

I really couldn't care less about the whole gay aspect.

However, in my personal head-canon Jay-Den's sensitivity and fear of public speaking doesn't quite line up with how I imagine the mind and emotions of a full-blood Klingon would work. I feel like every Klingon would have the instincts and emotions of a predator/hunter and I haven't quite seen that in Jay-Den. To me the character would make more sense if he was only part Klingon, like Alexander.

Then again, who's to say to what extent stereotypical Klingon behaviour is defined culturally as opposed to genetically? I do think it's interesting and refreshing to see a Klingon acting contrary to cultural norms and I do like the character. The only other Klingon character I can recall who wasn't a full-blown warrior is that one scientist in TNG.

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago

Everyone thinks all Orions are pirates but as Tendi said, “somebody had to build all the starships.”

I’m more inclined to like a Klingon who’s just got a different personality than someone like Worf who never shut the hell up about Klingon tradition since he was always trying to prove he was a warrior.

[-] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

but as Tendi said, “somebody had to build all the starships.”

Relevant comic:

A small, nerdy looking young male Klingon wearing glasses and a button down shirt sits at a table working on a technical drawing on a piece of paper. Two larger, buffer Klingons taunt him: “Hey, nerd!” “Kill any of your enemies today, nerd?” Both shout “Honor! Glory” and leave, and the drawing is revealed to be a warp drive. Some time later the same nerdy Klingon is standing in front of a Bird of Prey. He says, “Finally, I can leave this horrible place.” But before he can board, the two buff Klingons from before return, and shove him out of the way. “Glory! Honor!” They shout as they fly off. The source is whompcomic.com

[-] bless@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago

I have a feeling that Worf never shut up because he was raised by humans, so he always felt like he had to prove himself as Klingon

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

I’m more inclined to like a Klingon who’s just got a different personality than someone like Worf who never shut the hell up about Klingon tradition since he was always trying to prove he was a warrior.

We already had this in the "exchange program" ep of TNG, when Riker goes on the Klingon ship they aren't acting like Worf, especially the "Klingons do not laugh" bullshit.

It's because Worf has a chip on his shoulder because of his human upbringing and his father not dying a warrior's death

[-] teft@piefed.social 10 points 10 hours ago

I feel like every Klingon would have the instincts and emotions of a predator/hunter and I haven’t quite seen that in Jay-Den.

There was that one doctor klingon in Enterprise and also a lawyer klingon in a different episode of Enterprise. Not all klingons are hunters/predators. Some find honor in helping people.

As for Alexander I think he was so timid for a klingon because of his upbringing, not from his 1/4 human part.

[-] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

Plus Worf's ancestor the public defender in Undiscovered Country.

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