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As details of the death toll for January’s protests continue to emerge, three students explain why they are resisting a return to normality

More than 45 days after a brutal January crackdown that left thousands of Iranian protesters dead, students across several universities are protesting again. As Iran’s new academic term began on Saturday, students in Tehran gathered on campus, chanting anti-government slogans, despite a heavy security presence and plainclothes officers stationed outside university gates.

The Guardian spoke to protesting students about why they were rallying despite the fact that thousands had been killed and tens of thousands arrested in the January demonstrations.

“Our classrooms are empty because the graveyards are full,” said Hossein*, 21, a student at the University of Tehran. “It’s for them – our friends, classmates and compatriots, who were gunned down in front of our eyes, that we decided to boycott the classes.”

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[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm not sure why you are acting like I'm the one that said there was a valid verifiable report of this. My initial comment was literally talking about how people were lying about the numbers and saying it was "reported as 80,000"

This was the propaganda going around Twitter. A "report" can literally just be someone from inside Iran reporting on it. Which is exactly what that tweet was.

Maybe I worded my comment poorly? I was pointing to the absurdity of a number like 80,000 being taken seriously. And now for some reason you want a verified report of that? I'm so confused.

[-] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago

Why would you say

how can anyone print that number?

when no one printed it?

You're using it to back up someone saying we can't "trust the murderous media" but it's just lies

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

Look dude. Just because you were not paying attention to articles at the time doesn't mean I'm wrong.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NewIran/s/mEVnnKEJ4w

This same shit was spreading around social media and many news outlets printed "some estimates inside Iran put the number at 80,000".

It was bull shit and every single outlet that printed it has modified their reports since. I'm not sure why it's so hard for you to believe that the media grabbed the largest number they could and ran with it for a day.

I've shown you where this number came from. It's not "just a post on Twitter". It was from inside the country during a total internet blackout. The media ate it up for a day because there was nothing else coming out of Iran at the time.

Why is this so hard to understand? What evidence are you looking for? Because it's gonna be tweets or "way back machine" articles from Fox/NewsMax or Israeli newspapers. I'll find them tonight if I have time. But you are just as capable of looking.

Yes, believe it or not, I made a comment about something that I literally saw happening in real time and didn't bookmark. Fuck me right?

[-] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago

Reddit/NewIran

with source... just a post on twitter

It was bull shit and every single outlet that printed it has modified their reports since.

If this claim is correct it'd indeed be easy to prove using the Internet Archive. If you're watching NewsMax and telling us it's proof we shouldn't trust the press then... yeah

Looks to me like you've been duped by Khamenei's alt account on twitter and concluded you should look away and go back to sleep

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yes. That was literally my point mate. That news outlets lie and print shit that isn't confirmed. Thanks for understanding my initial comment this deep into the thread.

I wasn't "duped". I was literally pointing out the bull shit coverage in my first comment.

I never once said I thought that number was real or that I believed the outlets that spread it.

[-] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Your point was that you backed someone saying we shouldn't trust the reporting for The Guardian on on this issue by saying "It's insane. I saw a report saying 80k. How can anyone print that number"

When in reality what you saw was... a twitter post.

Do you think it's fair to sow distrust for the credibility of the article in the OP because you read something on twitter by someone else?

I'm sure you'll continue to try to twist this away from that initial post towards how what you really meant is that you didn't believe "all the [other] outlets that spread it!" (which you conveniently don't have time for to dig up lol). The best thing I can hope for is that you look away from your screen for a minute and ask yourself the question why you felt compelled to 'massage the message'

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

You win! You made it to the bottom of the useless comment thread of one person making an assumption that was never said. It's fucking exhausting. You deserve a break. Get some water and go stretch.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Instead of cherrypicking non-credible sources so you can point to the absurd numbers they claim, why don't you check some credible sources to see what the actual numbers are?

For instance, from Amnesty International:

On 17 January, in a public speech, Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Leader, said “thousands of people” were killed. Since then, on 21January, Iran’s Supreme Council of National Security issued a statement that 3,117 people were killed during the uprising. However, on 16 January 2026, the UN Special Rapporteur on Iran, Mai Sato, said in a media interview that at least 5,000 people had been killed, noting that according to information she received from medical sources, the death toll might be as high as 20,000 . Due to the ongoing internet shutdown, the scale of mass killings that took place and Iranian authorities’ well-documented pattern of carrying out reprisals against families of victims who speak out, the true number of those killed is likely higher.

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