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My initial thought is video games, everything has pros and cons, sure. However, it feels like anyone not into video games views them extrodinarly negatively. Any other hobbies parallel to that in your opinion?

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[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 73 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Drawing fetishist NSFW art. A friend of mine was (and probably still is, I just haven't had any contact with them for ages) pretty good at drawing. If you're into hentai and/or furry stuff, there's a non-zero chance you've seen his work. He also did some more "exotic" drawings on commission.

He (allegedly) wasn't particularly into it himself, but he was good at it, he had a creative outlet, and it gave him a couple of extra bucks per month.

[-] wirelesswire@lemmy.zip 43 points 3 months ago

Apparently there are quite a few art majors who turn their "useless" art degree into a living by making hentai, especially furry stuff.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago

The only visual art that is truly appreciated as it should

[-] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 28 points 3 months ago

I'd go one further and say kink itself!

Sure it's not for everyone... But people act like it's some crazy abomination, when most of the time it's just some variation of sex + roleplay.

[-] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I had a friend of a friend who is a bona fide Dom. She was particularly wealthy considering the reputation of the sex trade. Her practice catered to Financial District and C-Suite types who could afford her services. She told me these powerful people invariably develop a kink where they want to be dominated and humiliated as a "grass is always greener on the other side" reaction to their usual position of power and dominance. What blew my mind is that she said sexual release during sessions was a minority. Most got that at home from trophy spouses. They craved the psychology of bondage, domination and humiliation. Clientele included women too.

Humans are weird and wonderful.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

As a woman very involved in the lifestyle scene (as opposed to the professional scene). Yeah, there's a lot of reasons people wind up into it, and what your friend describes is the cliche stereotype of the person who pays for pros, but a lot of the lifestylers are similar to a lesser degree.

And yeah it's not a given that you're even allowed to have sexual release in a kink event, and sometimes it has to be in a specific room. The sensations, the mind games, the role play, the pain, etc. is often the primary thing happening to the exclusion of other stuff. A surprising amount of bdsm events are just discussion groups and classes.

[-] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

Thanks for sharing. Can you characterize the people beyond the cliché I spoke of? Is it everyone from all walks of life or do certain people gravitate to it. It makes no sense to me and I don't know anyone other than this friend of a friend.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

It's definitely skewed towards neurodivergent people, but not exclusively.

Lots of trauma on both sides of the slash (ie both in dominants and submissives). Reenacting a variant of how it felt to be bullied or yelled at/hit by your parents or even so far as reenacting sexual violence done to you within a safe space where you can end it at any time is remarkably healing, and it's easy to from there just fall in love with all of it. And on the dominant side that can be a form of taking control back in your life. A friend of mine got into being a Domme at her second husband's request, but she fell in love with it because it returned to her the feeling of control that her abusive first husband had stolen from her.

Sensory seeking behaviors are super common in the bondage scene and the sadomasochism scene.

For people with social difficulties the extent to which everything is negotiated and clearly communicated is really refreshing, and then since there's so much neurodivergence things like flat affects, saying stupid shit without thinking, etc is generally understood and not mistreated.

There's also just generally a hippie/weirdo/alternative vibe to the community. You'll meet reiki practitioners and you'll see arguments over whether fire cupping actually does anything besides bruising the hell out of a back by people who do it for fun and generally agree that bruising the hell out of a back can make it feel better outside the bruising because of endorphins and distraction. Oh also a hell of a lot of nonmonogamy.

I'm sure there's more if I think of it. Ultimately, you have to be a bit weird to take the moves from "i think this is hot in theory or in erotica" or "we do this in our bedroom" to "I'm interested in going to a discussion group/class/social event/play party about this in person where I live". The first event is terrifying to actually walk into. And then it's another big step to actually go to enough that people remember who you are or to get involved in a more community focused side of the scene like the leather community

[-] SCmSTR 1 points 3 months ago

People like you make the world a better place

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I try, fortunately I believe making the world weirder makes it better

[-] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 3 points 3 months ago

I suppose that's possible, but I feel like I've talked to a lot of people in the kink space who developed their particular interests from a young pre-pubescent age, before they were even really sexually aware. A shocking number of kinksters will tell you that they feel that their fascination came "preinstalled". 😅

[-] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

This makes sense to me in the context of the story I relayed. Executives tend to draw mostly from a pool of high functioning psychopaths. That is preinstalled. So presumably the kink would be too.

[-] SCmSTR 3 points 3 months ago

A lot of people who lead a lot need to not be in that dynamic. People are very often sexually the opposite of their daytime personalities.

[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm reasonably vanilla myself, but I know that if I liked something "weird", people judging me for it wouldn't help anyone, least of all myself.

I've known a few furries over the years, and while I don't understand it, being in the periphery of the community numbed me enough to "weirder" stuff. They're not hurting anyone (well, other than their wallets. Do you have any idea how much a pursuit costs? Jfc...), so I don't see why they're not any less deserving of acceptance than people who prefer ass over tits, etc.

[-] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 7 points 3 months ago

In my experience with kink communities, shame can really do a number on people's psychology. It feels like there are always two camps of people: the ones who simply learn to say "fuck it" and embrace their weird side, and those who really become very depressed and self-isolating because they're made to feel like an aberration. That level of internal conflict, where you spend your entire life fighting against your own (otherwise legally and ethically non-problematic) desires due to internalized shame is a dark and dangerous path.

And like... I get it. To an outsider, any kink that you don't have can definitely seem weird, gross, undesirable, etc. But then again, even vanilla sex acts can seem gross when you imagine other people doing them. Still, I think a lot of people in the kink space end up struggling with negative feelings about themselves.

Plus, there are a certain group of very puritanical and judgemental people who desperately want to describe (without any psychiatric qualifications) any behavior they don't understand as being "mental illness", but ironically, I think the most mentally healthy thing any kinky person can do is simply to accept and embrace their kink.

My message to any kinky people out there is to do whatever you can to accept yourself. Unless your kink involves something that is seriously dangerous to yourself and others, or otherwise legally or ethically dubious, then odds are that the best thing that you can do is just come to terms with being, as Rick James said, a "superfreak".

[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

Maybe that's why I'm so OK with people with non-default sexual preferences: I'm pretty weird myself, I just happen to be reasonably mainstream in terms of sexuality.

[-] SCmSTR 3 points 3 months ago

You know how sometimes if you put a superhero mask on and you feel goofier and/or more confident?

Now imagine you're an awkward shy person and/or neurodivergent and you spent a lot of growing up being an absolute gremlin or pomp inside your mind but having to forcibly behave like everybody else or be ridiculed. Behaving, paying active close attention to others and their reactions and movements, and acting appropriately... This is called masking.

Notice the similarities?

Now, apply cartoon personified animal characteristics to yourself while literally wearing a suit/whole outfit. What characteristics, you ask? The ones that you enjoy, feel the best, and you feel fit you the best.

That's oversimplified furries. They're party superheroes and it helps them be their chosen selves.

(I am not a furry. This is my impression and current level of understanding from an entirely outside perspective. If I'm wrong, please feel more than free to correct me, I'd love to know.)

[-] YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Probably one of the minor things I privately disdain as a norm on Lemmy and previously Reddit is folk who are deeply into erotic Anime/furry and similar fringe sexual interests.

Of course, sexuality for many is a rich smorgasbord, and I get how nobody wants to 'kink-shame', but that stuff... yeah, not my bag at all.

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