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It's sad to see dbzer0 slowly creeping towards authoritarianism. This is exactly the kind of reason I couoldn't entertain making it my primary instance unfortunately.
It's kind of a weird argument considering lemmy.world has also blocked other instances, and (correct me if I'm wrong) without a vote on it.
You are indeed correct. Lemmy.world is less democratic than dbzer0.
Hell world wouldn't even punish a mod for rule breaking behavior
.world was already bad, doesn't stop me from being disappointed when one of the instances I liked more gets worse.
Nah, it was decided with a vote. The majority in that server wanted Feddit blocked and that’s what came.
Ah yes because nothing authoritarian was ever implemented through a vote...
Personally, I voted against on my db0 account, the top voted comments explain pretty thoroughly why.
Voting to block a domain and having that domain blocked isn’t comparable to electing an authoritarian leader. Dbzer0 can choose who to and not to federate with. Users who don’t like that move to another instance easily.
Nobody has said that? What it does is remove the choice from each individual, which is authoritarian, even if done via majority vote. There was nothing stopping those who wanted the domain blocked to do that themselves.
Nobody removed your choice to change servers
It's literally part of the point of the fediverse that you can pick hosts who agree with you, who can apply moderation and bans you agree with on your behalf, and if you disagree you move and bring people with you if you can convince them
Further evidenced by the fact they're posting from their non-db0 account after saying they voted on the topic with their db0 account.
I just don’t see it as authoritarian. Wasn’t on a whim, it was voted, and the majority voted to defederate. Does it remove user choice, sure I guess., but so does any form of moderation.
Authoritarian is a basically meaningless word already but "people voting for something I don't like" is an especially idiotic way to define it.
You're right, that would be idiotic. Good thing I didn't define authoritarian that way, and no, it is not a meaningless word, you can (in fact) look it up in a dictionary which describes the meaning fairly well.
The linked definition doesn't match with you calling the vote/outcome authoritarian.
Authoritarian/authoritarianisn is so widely defined that literally every country, organisation and movement fits it by necessity in class society
Authoritarian is a pejorative used by idiots to avoid grappling with the reality of one class necessarily suppressing another in class society.
You didn't define authoritarianism or specifically say how it is so in this case, leaving us to guess and you to say we guessed wrong.
Yet another example of why the abstract concept of "authoritarianism" is useless. In this case, the people of dbzer0 decided democratically to wield their authority to defederate from an instance with an explicit Zionist problem. It isn't the defederation that's the problem in the abstract, or the authority, it's the fact that this authority was used against Zionists.
Authority is exactly the problem. Who would've thought that somebody with an account on an anarchist instance has problems with other people telling them what they can and can't do?
Shocking, I know.
You're arguing against the people wielding their power against Zionists and in favor of Zionists being able to speak freely. You moved to an instance with stricter defederation, showing you don't care about defederation in the abstract, but what was being defederated.
Wow, is it really so hard to believe that I'm, you know, saying what I think?
.world happened to be my first fediverse account, dbzer0 came later. I've lots at this point, exactly because of instance defederation, but the idea of what db0 was doing seemed particularly interesting, hence my disappointment.
In any case I've nothing more to add here.
Hope you get a nice weekend, ciao.
Yes, because it openly contradicts your actions
I don't think it's particularly interesting that anarchists defederated from Zionists.
You mean like you telling every other user on db0 that they can't defed?
You can achieve essentially the same effect via blocking. Bypassing defederation instead requires using a different instance.
So all moderation is wrong? Also you seem to very clearly not understand what anarchism is beyond the infantile "tyranny of bedtime" surface.
No.
Sure sounds like you're against moderation. Or are you just a liar who only cares because it's about shunning Zionism.
So how do you justify making .world your primary instance?
It isn't, I have active accounts on a handful of instances atm.