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[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 55 points 5 days ago

Nothing changes for now but other moves by Google clearly show they are trying to kill 3rd party ROMs by locking down Android's code. In my opinion, unless EU steps in and mandates phone manufacturers and Google to support google free apps we're fucked.

[-] lbfgs@programming.dev 34 points 5 days ago

EU wants phones to be locked down so they can then make Google implement mass surveillance for "national security" reasons

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 5 days ago

What are you basing this on? If you say "Chat Control" I will just ignore you.

[-] eleitl@lemmy.zip 25 points 5 days ago

The EU has no interest in allowing privacy on devices, since it is increasingly attempting to control alternative narratives. We're in touching distance of the Fourth Reich now.

[-] Riverside@reddthat.com 14 points 5 days ago

Europe has explicitly no problem with this. They showed they have the power to censor Russian media but refuse to do this with European far-right, they just want the local fascists to win.

[-] eleitl@lemmy.zip 11 points 5 days ago
[-] Riverside@reddthat.com 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Even the premise is too generous:

Why would the leaders of the EU—a project ostensibly built on peace and sovereignty—

How on Earth is the literal cradle of Fascism and colonialism built on peace and sovereignty? The EU is built on neoliberalism and anticommunism, it cannot be built on peace or sovereignty.

[-] mjr@infosec.pub 7 points 5 days ago

Remember that the EU arose in part from the institutions set up to deter the same type of nationalist fascism rising again, such as the ECSC. Sadly, we may have encouraged Russian -funded American -spread international fascism in its place, although they don't seem to control the EU yet.

[-] Riverside@reddthat.com 5 points 5 days ago

Fascism is not even Russian funded or American spread, Europe is perfectly capable of growing its own fascism as we saw 100 years ago, sadly we're going down the same road.

[-] mjr@infosec.pub 1 points 5 days ago

Fascism is not even Russian funded or American spread, Europe is perfectly capable of growing its own fascism as we saw 100 years ago,

Capable and seen in the past, yes, but the current wave of it is indeed funded and spread by Russians and Americans.

[-] Riverside@reddthat.com 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Partially funded by Americans and to a lesser degree Russians, primarily funded by Europeans

Edit: to clarify, I don't believe Russia has less of an intent on controlling European politics than the USA does, it's just that the USA has a lot more power, money and relations with Europe, so it naturally has a lot more ways to influence our policy. As an example, Europe will (righfully) be very angry at Russia when it starts a war with Ukraine, but will join the USA in a war in Iraq.

[-] MatSeFi@lemmy.liebeleu.de 5 points 5 days ago

Would not be sure about that. There has been steps in opposite directions in the past. Remember the regulation regarding 3. party app Stores on IOS, or even further back in the past the "Free Brwoser Choice" in MS-Windows.

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 2 points 5 days ago

It is surely called competition law?

[-] maximumbird@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I'm dumb But using grapheneos How would them locking down the code affect graphene?

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 4 days ago

Graphen is based on AOSP - Android Open Source Project. As the name implies, that's the part of Android that's Open Source. Google publishes this code, Graphene OS people modify it and release. All bugfixes, security fixes and new features go there. Google first stopped accepting contributions from other devs and now they are limiting how often will they release AOSP and how often will they publish security fixes. This makes development of Graphene OS more difficult and it looks like Google's ultimate goal is to make Android closed source. Graphene OS doesn't have the resources to develop Android by themselves so this would probably kill the project.

[-] zhkent@lemmy.today 1 points 5 days ago

Some apps require google play, like android auto and maps.
I'm using grapheneos with open street maps, so I don't think there would be any problem with that. There is a work around to load some apps that require google play with out a google account. I'm guessing that is what would be affected.

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