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[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Oh look, a meme HELPING fascism.

[-] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 week ago

Looks pretty accurate for those of us outside the imperial core.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago

it's painfully obvious from inside the core too; it's just that most are convinced that it's conspiracy theory in the same way that the epstein class convinced most that the baby farming, raping, sacraficing, and eating are conspiracy theories too.

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Every fascist government in history has taken power in large part because the opposition was too busy fighting amongst themselves. There need to be only to sides right now - fascism and anti-fascism.

[-] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

This implies that the democrats aren't on the fascist side. That is clearly not true. The antifascist side has always been the left wing(communists and anarchists). If you support the "nice fascists" or the "mean fascists" you're still a fascist.

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Under what definition of fascism do Democrats qualify?

[-] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Through the fact that they are reactionary, genocide backing, war hungry, imperialist, bourgeoisie owned enemies of the working class who are shifting right as the capitalist crisis deepens, increasing Gestapo funding and suppressing real working class organisation.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Yes, and the Democrats are on the side of fascism

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

and it's yellow to help others like you understand and fortunately so because they seem to have a lot of difficulty understanding it. lol

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

How so? Both the DNC and GOP are far-right parties of genocidal imperialists, we need to stop treating capitalist-controlled and run elections as our primary political outlet, and instead build up revolutionary working class parties.

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Both the DNC and GOP are far-right parties of genocidal imperialists

And one of these will be running the country in 2028. Forming a coalition to fight them is a great long term goal, bit it takes time and momentum.

We need to stop treating capitalist-controlled and run elections as our primary political outlet

As of September 2025, 54% have a positive view of capitalism compared to 39% with a positive view of socialism. Those numbers are converging, but we have at least a decade or two before they cross. We just don't have the numbers to pull it off.

revolutionary working class parties.

Unions. We need to build unions. When a majority of people see unions working for them against the capitalists, then they will be ready to accept something new.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

And one of these will be running the country in 2028. Forming a coalition to fight them is a great long term goal, bit it takes time and momentum.

We have been building momentum for a long, long time. Part of why progress is slow is because people believe voting to be the primary means by which we can engage with politics in a bourgeois controlled system. The fact that one of those two parties will win does not mean we need to accept the DNC as a valid representative of the working classes, as they fix nothing and maintain imperialism.

As of September 2025, 54% have a positive view of capitalism compared to 39% with a positive view of socialism. Those numbers are converging, but we have at least a decade or two before they cross. We just don’t have the numbers to pull it off.

Believe it or not, numbers are also improving with respect to how communism is percieved:

The problem with your thinking is that it assumes socialism is a matter of waiting for more people to support it. Plenty of popular policies like abortion, marijuana legalization, and opposing war in Venezuela, Cuba, and Iran are still supported by both parties. They do not represent our interests, so we need to organize against it.

Unions. We need to build unions. When a majority of people see unions working for them against the capitalists, then they will be ready to accept something new.

This is historically false. Every successful revolution has been led by parties, not unions. Unions help themselves, not the working class as a whole, so while we should support and engage with unions, it remains necessary to organize in a broad, revolutionary working class party.

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

The fact that one of those two parties will win does not mean we need to accept the DNC as a valid representative of the working classes, as they fix nothing and maintain imperialism.

They may or may not fix anything, but the RNC will make things worse. The RMC has enabled a fascist takeover that is stripping rights from LGBT people, spreading contagious diseases with antivax policy, abusing and shooting people dead in the street in the name of border security, initiating a coup in Venezuela by kidnapping a national leader, murdering sailors with drone strikes, and denying the basic civil liberties of millions of residents. You can tell me all day about how bad the DNC is but at the end of the day they are the least worst choice.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

The DNC and GOP are both aligned on supporting genocidal imperialism, though. Both shoot people dead in the streets, Hillary even bragged about how many people the DNC deported. The DNC was committing genocide in Palestine, which the GOP has continued. You're falling for their better PR.

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