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[-] Analog@lemmy.ml 118 points 3 months ago

Post headline deserves a downvote. Quote from article:

Lanier asked Mosseri what he thought of K.G.M's longest single day of use of Instagram being 16 hours.

"That sounds like problematic use," the Instagram boss answered. He did not call it an addiction.

He also didn’t say it was a tomato. Like wtf do you want, I can’t tell if he was asked specifically if 16 hours a day was an addiction. The prior question was about whether he had known she had a 16hr day, and he had not. (He should have; poor trial prep.)

This is sensationalist BS and I dearly want this platform to be better than that.

Just so we’re clear, Meta can die in a fire and the world would be better off, I’m not defending them in the slightest.

[-] XLE@piefed.social 95 points 3 months ago

The title is accurate.

He was asked if it was an addiction, and he repeatedly used technicalities and weaseley language to refuse to admit it.

"It's important to differentiate between clinical addiction and problematic use," [Instagram head Adam Mosseri] added.

"I'm sure I've said that I've been addicted to a Netflix show when I binged it really late one night, but I don't think it's the same thing as clinical addiction."

Yet, Mosseri repeatedly said he was not an expert in addiction in response to Lanier's questioning.

[-] maturelemontree@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 months ago

That still sounds misleading. He was not speaking for 16 hours of use which is what the headline suggests. As other has stated, I hope those companies crumble but I think honesty is important, not sensationalization.

[-] XLE@piefed.social 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I fear for the future of reading comprehension. Before the portion Analog quotes, the article gives people multiple paragraphs of context to understand addiction as what is being talked about. I don't expect the word to be wedged into every sentence about the same topic. Meta's Adam Mosseri was clearly doing everything in his playbook to not use the word "addiction" in a sentence.

And Adam Mosseri knew better. We know he's been confronted with evidence of addiction but doesn't want to listen.

But I do find it much more concerning that Analog appointed himself judge of bad articles, then either accidentally or intentionally omitted the preceding paragraphs that I had to quote for him.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 5 points 3 months ago

I fear for the future of reading comprehension

I fear for it currently if you think it's okay to make up things people said and put it in a headline.

[-] lmmarsano@group.lt 4 points 3 months ago

he repeatedly used technicalities and weaseley language to refuse to admit it

see

Yet, Mosseri repeatedly said he was not an expert in addiction in response to Lanier’s questioning.

Even if a nonexpert claims something is clinical addiction, they're a nonexpert & their word is meaningless. For a credible statement, they'll need to admit relevant evidence instead of ask a nonexpert.

Imagine being asked for a medical diagnosis when you're not a qualified physician. It's perfectly fair to point out you're not an expert on the matter & point out your awareness of distinctions between imprecise conventional language & precise, scientific definitions.

No one is obligated to volunteer dubious claims to antagonize themselves on the stand just because you want them to.

[-] XLE@piefed.social 7 points 3 months ago

Pam Bondi, is that you?

[-] lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

He's right. Clinical addiction has nothing to do with how much you do something, it has to do with how much it causes problems in your life. I know everyone on Lemmy is tripping over their own hard ons to kill corporations, but there are people using lemmy 16 hours a day and if laws are passed to fight Internet addiction, they will not specifically target corporations. We all go down together. Just ask the creator of Urban Dead.

[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I guess we could chalk it up to bad journalism because the example was purely anecdotal. It‘s frustrating for sure.

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago
[-] mrbutterscotch@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago

So someone doing Heroin everday is not addicted if it doesn't cause any problems in life? Clinical Addiction absolutely does have to do with how much you do something (and other factors of course).

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[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago

The entire line of questioning was about addiction and the CEO was pretending it wasn't (he didn't want up admit the truth because his company would be liable). The headline was accurate and your take is officially a hot one.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 13 points 3 months ago

Something something defending the billionaires! /s

[-] Analog@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago

I just dislike sensationalism.

If the truth isn’t enough, then I don’t want it.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You dislike the truth. You should watch Tobacco CEOs deny that cigarettes were an addiction.

https://youtu.be/A6B1q22R438

[-] XLE@piefed.social 4 points 3 months ago

Hopefully Analog returns to Lemmy in far less than 12 days, and heavily edits their comments to reflect their error

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah, that was some serious ninja editing.

[-] Analog@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

What editing? Didn’t edit either if those posts.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

The comments I replied to were heavily edited after I replied. You can comment at the bottom with an Edit: and then explain what you changed. Otherwise, it is known as a ninja edit and it is generally frowned upon because it makes the conversations convoluted. Cheers!

[-] XLE@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago

Since you care deeply about truth or something, when will you be correcting your comments that, at best, lack huge amounts of truth that change the contents you put forth? At best, you accidentally skipped multiple paragraphs that contradict your claims. At less best, you knew better.

[-] Analog@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

Post said he said a thing. He did not say the thing. Not complicated.

Could have worded the post title to be accurate: didn’t. Instead, lied.

Words matter. Truth matters. Interpretation is how you get religious people performing atrocities based on millennia old writings.

“[Asshole] Squirms Under Questioning, Refuses To Admit 16hrs A Day Is Addictive Behavior.”

Not hard.

[-] XLE@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago

Your comments now are a huge shift from

"That sounds like problematic use," the Instagram boss answered. He did not call it an addiction.

He also didn’t say it was a tomato.

Seems that, in the interest of accuracy, you should update them, lest you be the thing you claim others are.

[-] Analog@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

I recommend a re-read, my good buddy, of all my posts in this thread.

Truth. Not lies. Not conjecture.

This can be the truth that he was dodging the question.

Don’t say people said things they didn’t say. Simple.

[-] XLE@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago

Your original post was a lie, or dumb accident, through omission. And now that you know better, you are lying intentionally in it.

You know damn well they were talking about addiction and not tomatoes. And yet you dishonestly tell people those two things are the same.

[-] Analog@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

Did the douchebag say exactly what the post title said he said?

[-] XLE@piefed.social 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Have you walked back your lie comparing the actual topic of addiction to the irrelevant topic of tomatoes? Make sure you post an explicit correction along with an apology.

"If the truth isn't enough, I don't want it." Please demonstrate.

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[-] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah and you probably think headlines that say "suspect dead after ICE-involved incident" is fine and that "ICE performs summary execution of innocent person" is sensationalism.

[-] luciferofastora@feddit.org 3 points 3 months ago

The post accurately copies the article's headline without editorialising.

The article itself is shit though.

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