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France's Macron urges calm after far-right activist fatally beaten
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Since when did European media start using Trumps term ‘radical-left’ ?
There is no such thing, this is pure framing by the alt-right!
Trump calls everyone from AOC to Angela Merkel radical leftists.
Spaniard here: Podemos, a prominent leftist party that appeared in the 2010s as third political force, was categorized as radical since its inception by mainstream media. The party has almost disappeared now, mainly due to a plot by the state police and private media in which the police fabricated false investigations of funding by Venezuela and Iran (wonder why these two are always used as dogwhistles) and leaked them to the media to make a huge campaign of lawfare and manufacturing of public mistrust.
I despise Trump's propaganda as much as anyone here, but LFI (the party of the mentioned lawmaker) call themselves "radical left".
We shouldn't let Trump turn this expression into an insult.
There damn well IS a such thing, I'm a radical leftist anarchist specifically. But you're right in that regular liberals like AOC are not. "Radical" just means outside of mainstream political thought.
This is why leftists will never be a meaningful political bloc.
DSA, while not as left or "radical" as some on here, are already a political bloc in the US having meaningful impact. I support and celebrate their achievements even if I want more.
So... You're wrong.
I don’t think I am wrong.
Leftists infighting about who is actually left enough is damaging to the movement.
You should be aware that people tactically register for the democratic or republican parties in states with closed primaries. It's a fairly obvious thing to do when you live in a place where the "safe party" primary is the real election. I disagree with the rest of your argument as well but the numbers don't paint the picture that they appear to.
It’s fine to disagree but the votes add up to those numbers too.
It is growing pains. This is the necessary hashing out of common thought among any political movement. There is much upset and confusion right now and people are examining the world through different eyes. People are shedding their pre-existing worldviews. So obviously there will be infighting and bickering, as our thoughts settle and coalesce.
The broad statistical categorization of Dems and Repubs that you give doesn't express the fact that there are smaller groups within those categories who are disagreeing with each other much the same as leftists do here. (e.g. "RINOs", "never-Trumpers", the "Tea Party" of recent history) A lot of their internal struggle is kept secret, as they already have fully-fledged parties with the resources and structure to herd their members on common lines. It's not appropriate to compare open-format discussion online to the outward messaging of fully-realized parties.
As I understand, there are DSA members who are within that "Democrat" label as well who are using the reach of that party to further spread leftist messages. The statistics you list has no bearing on the fact that "leftist" ideas are spreading more rapidly in the US and people are thirsty for change. The current statistics don't say anything of the future.
When Ho Chi Minh returned to Vietnam and eventually liberated that country from capitalism, it was just him and a handful of others starting out. Different circumstances of course, but the point is things can change rapidly. Demographic statistics are irrelevant to that.
There is still much work to do. Capitalism will end one day - even if outside our lifetimes. No one now can predict how that will turn out, but it will end just as feudalism did when the conditions of the world changed.
One DSA member for every eight hundred Democrats and republicans says a lot actually.
And years ago, there we people saying the same as you about the political parties that we struggle to remember now. I won't lose hope, but you're entitled to your speculation.
Socialism is a hundred year old political theory and that’s all the buy-in it’s gotten in that time.
Three countries off the top of my head are socialist. Actually I can think of a couple more, so yeah we've got a pretty good start. You can look into it yourself if you have any questions, I don't feel you're here to discuss in good faith. So, have a nice day.
Three out of a hundred and ninety five?
So that’s about 1.5% of the world?
That’s better than the 0.125% of DSA members vs democrats and republicans.
Sorry I’m not in the socialist circle jerk but if you retreat to your echo chamber you can dodge reality for a while longer.
Like I said, as I was typing I thought of more. Three was just the immediate number I thought of.
Yes 3 / 195 is indeed 1.5%. That number adds nothing of essence to determine what percent of the world population is leftist in their politics. Countries do not have consistent landmass or population, and within even socialist countries not all people are left in their political ideology.
Look you're clearly not a leftist and you're here to just troll, so why comment on "leftist infighting" at all? I address this in my previous comment but you just ignored it. So again, have a nice day.
I’m a leftist but I’m also a realist so I’m a liberal.
I used to be a lot further left but the more time I spend on this site the more I realize it’s a hopeless political position with the gatekeeping and infighting so the more I become liberal.
The term alt-right is problematic too. I think you meant neo-nazis or just nazis
He calls biden and kamala radical left, it's a meaningless term like anti semite, no accusation can be taken at face value.
France has been doing that for LFI for a few years, with Macron pushing Le Pen. Right wing media (most of them) have religiously followed suit, calling them radicals and extremists.
And now, the government just officially defined LFI as "extrême gauche". And I don't mean in speeches but legally. This pissed off the real "extrême gauche", stating that there is a difference between trying to tame capitalism vs abolishing it. But hey all the same to the media and the government: don't you dare criticizing this magnificent system that keeps us on top and you at the bottom