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The grand jury refused to indict based on the evidence presented in the case.
The victim's entire family was in the house at the time of the killing. There were numerous witnesses.
this is america - don’t think because they refused to press that there was no nonsense at foot. heck, even an accidental discharge should result in time. mind you, with guns, there is no such thing as an accident.
The argument presented by the Tweet varies enormously from the facts of the case. They didn't even get the fucking date right. She was shot in January of 2025, not 2026.
You're getting the internet gossip fifth hand while dismissing the legal decisions of this woman's friends and neighbors because... America bad?
I agree that including a link to credible news sources is crucial. It’s also important to cite the facts as presented, then be clear when posting your own opinion or inserting misdirection such as “there were witnesses”.
Facts:
Sources:
Is false right out of the gate.
She was upset. He was cavalier.
He treated his gun like a toy and his daughter paid for his childish attitude with her life. There's a story here, but nobody on Lemmy seems to want to read it. They want to believe this house became some kind of war zone. The biter truth is that he fucked up because he didn't take gun ownership seriously.
That's not manslaughter?
Not according to the grand jury.
And we aren't allowed to question if the grand jury made a mistake? If so everything else being discussed is pointless.
Do you think the situation you are describing sounds like it might be manslaughter? Enough that it is worth while to have a trial and find out?
You can do whatever you want. Speculate, guesstimate, do spirit fingers until you commune with the deceased.
I'm not an attorney or a judge, so I'm not equipped to make this decision. Off the cuff, it feels like involuntary manslaughter. You'd have to ask the GJ why they decided otherwise.
But the social media posts and associated click-bait articles are describing it as capital murder. Nothing in the actual details of the case supports this.
Your only defense is saying "The GJ decided not to."
Yes, we know. That is what people are complaining about.
Your posts literally read as "you can't complain that the GJ decided not to move forward because the GJ decided not to move forward."
God forbid anyone disagree with a judicial ruling! Oh wait, that's our right as citizens of this country... This guy sounds like someone that would say "you should have just compiled".
The tweet is wrong, yes, but there are dozens of articles coming out in the past 3 days that correctly date the killing.
There are dozens of articles reprinting the same events with increasingly click-bait geared headlines and takes.
Every iteration gets farther and farther away from the facts of the case.
"with guns, there is no such thing as an accident"? Negligent discharges happen all the time. It's a reasonably big part of gun injury statistics: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7250a1.htm
Guy should get in trouble for what happened. But it's not reasonable to frame this like "we know he intentionally shot his daughter because of her views on Trump." And don't get me wrong, fuck trump and fuck maga.
i am not considering negligence an accident, that’s my point.
I don't understand the logic here. If you're in your basement, and someone gets stabbed in your kitchen, you somehow know the stabber's intent?
Is this a normal psychic power? I don't think I have it.
There were no witnesses. Unless you count the killer.
Go back and read the original fucking article. If you're really curious, go scrounge up the actual facts of the case presented to the grand jury.
"Okay, but what if I'm skeptical? What if I'm double skeptical? What if I'm fully incredulous? Then can I believe her father killed her in cold blood?" Sure. Believe whatever fairy tale you want to tell yourself.
So your point is that, believing only the murderer, after a heated discussion about Trump and guns, he took his daughter to a room where he was displaying the safety features of a loaded gun and accidentally shot and killed her daughter... and in this scenario, there is ZERO criminal liability?
You are arguing with me, a random asshole on the internet, when you should be arguing with the DA and the grand jury, which did not find the evidence in the case gathered by a professional investigation team compelling enough to indict on.
yes, I come to Lemmy to find DAs and argue a year old case in a country I do not live in...
This is the USA, and Texas to boot... there is no professional anything when it comes to guns or law... it's basically a banana republic at this point
This is British tabloid news and people misquoting articles on social media.
as far as I can tell, the only misquote is the date (which explains why it's been posted so much this week)... if you have any official source that contradicts the many articles posted on this I am happy to read through but I have not found any so far
Schrodinger's Source: if they do not provide a source then any source you provide is 'biased' and incorrect. They have a source with a 'true account' but you have to find it on your own.
What facts in the original article or the case are you referring to?
There were no other witnesses. There were people in the house but the father took the daughter by the hand and led her to his room were the gun was located. She was very anti-gun... why would she want to see it? He shot her directly in the chest. No one else was in the room.
Edit: also earlier she asked if it was her that had been sexual assaulted(referring to something about Trump) he said he would not be that upset about it.
They refused to bring manslaughter charges. I'm not a lawyer, but I cannot understand how even his version of events isn't at least manslaughter.
I blame the prosecutor here.
Someone died. No one gets punished for that? You must be American
Nobody was in the room where the father killed his daughter... he took her there aside from the rest of the fam
I can't believe there are such fucked up people. People who kill their daughters and people who defend murderers. Fuck them, fuck the grand jury and fuck you, scum.
The GJ refused to indict based on the evidence provided by the prosecutor. The prosecutor, if they want, can get an indictment out of a GJ. The outcome is entirely dependent on decisions made by the prosecutor around what evidence to present and the manner in which it is presented.
The prosecutor can present evidence to the GJ selectively. They can't just demand the GJ issue an indictment. If there's not enough selectively revealed evidence to convince a GJ, the case is almost certainly too weak to survive trial.
Yup
You're so close to seeing the issue here.