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Apple has plowed over $500 billion into stock buybacks since 2012 โ€” more than Visa, JPMorgan, or Exxon are worth::Only eight companies in the S&P 500 have larger market values than Apple's outlay on share repurchases over the last decade.

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[-] laylawashere44 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's usually done to basically pay to increase companies own stock price. They often do it because CEO and executive pay is based on achieving certain goals such as stock price. However, every penny thrown at investors in a buy back is money that could have been used to weather a downturn, or increase employee pay or simply reinvested in the company itself. This often leads to companies then requiring government bailouts to continue functioning when say a global pandemic hits. The Plain Bagel has more detailed video on the ups and downs of stock buybacks on YouTube.

[-] Pringles@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

While absolutely true and I believe it should be illegal, Apple is not exactly strapped for cash. If there is one company that could afford buybacks, without hurting their investments, payroll, r&d, hell, even their bottom line hardly budges with these buybacks. They had 166B profit in the last 12 months...

[-] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Stock buy backs are a tax efficient way to return money to stockholders.

The real issue is when companies borrow money to do this.

[-] SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I would say stock buybacks are already a real issue, doesn't matter if they're borrowing the money or not. If companies had to actually invest in their employees instead of their rich shareholders a lot of issues in our society today would be lessened.

[-] laylawashere44 1 points 1 year ago

There is also the oft cited chart about US wage stagnation seemingly starting around the time a Reagan era policy incetivied companies to return more money to shareholders. The implied causation being that stock buybacks and other such rules are in part of or wholly responsible for the widespread wage stagnation. Of course correlation does not prove causation, though it certainly suggests it.

[-] dirkle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Is there no scenario in which a company could buy back their stocks? Or are companies that offer stock forever stuck with never getting those back? That would kill a lot of opportunities for companies to start up, expand their business, or take advantage of other opportunities to grow. You can't always get money from a bank loan.

[-] Tristan@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I don't think this applies here. Apple running out of cash isn't really a risk right now.

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