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[-] Pwalabwa@quokk.au 8 points 3 months ago
  • I don't care about shit reposted from 4chud getting censored
  • Dot ml censors slurs, and it's not like it's a bad thing
  • As far as I know, most of the "hard-coded" crap can be disabled by server admins
  • I'd rather use software made by an opinionated old fart who doesn't like memes and shitposts than one made by a transphobic, covid denying asshole

Now censor me so I can go post in YPTB.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 44 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Nutomic's transphobia and downplay of COVID are deplorable, but Rimu isn't merely opinionated on memes and shitposts. Rimu is a rabid anti-communist, with deeply racist views justified internally by said anti-communism:

And justifying it with articles from far-right think-tanks like the McCain Institute:

These views are disgusting, and being an anti-communist is what leads Rimu to accept them more readily. Further, equating slur filters to things like PieFed's social credit score system is apples to oranges, and defaults against communist instances that unsuspecting new admins wouldn't think to check just further displays Rimu's clear ideological opposition to Lemmy on the basis of Lemmy having a lot of communists.

[-] hamid@crazypeople.online 10 points 3 months ago

I actually don't understand what the fight they're having in that chain about COVID in 2025. Are people still doing pandemic responses in other countries? I haven't seen a single person wear a mask where I live in Sonora in 3 or 4 years, am I supposed to be the only one wearing a mask and implementing a population level public health measure on my own? I got the vaccine

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 months ago

COVID still exists and still impacts people with the vaccine. Government mandates have been lifted, but masking is the correct decision, at minimum in large public gatherings.

[-] hamid@crazypeople.online 8 points 3 months ago

It was never mandated here so I guess people never started

[-] Pwalabwa@quokk.au 2 points 3 months ago

Nutomic’s transphobia and downplay of COVID are deplorable

And pedophilia apology, I forgot that one initially (was bookmarked on an account which I thought I had deleted). This shithead doesn't reflect well on Dessalines.

And about the rest... Damn, even in isolation it's complete bullshit. Wouldn't have thought that someone whose server displays a "Rational Discourse Toolkit" insert would have fallen for that.

So, back to Mbin it is. You don't have dirt on Melroy now, do you 😓 ?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 25 points 3 months ago

I don't have any dirt on Melroy, no, but I'd say just use Lemmy. For all of Nutomic's personal faults, unlike PieFed they don't make it to the code, and you can spin up or join an instance entirely unaffiliated with Nutomic if you wish. Most Lemmy.ml users find Nutomic's views deplorable too, most of us are communists.

[-] Pwalabwa@quokk.au 2 points 3 months ago

I know, I've been on lemmy for the past 6 years. But I can't just overlook that swollen pimple and still use the sofware while there's alternatives that are maintained by people who, to my knowledge, don't have such disgusting views.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 months ago

I'm not certain about Melroy, so I can't say, but Lemmy itself does not have those views, nor does every instance (in fact, most do not).

[-] Pwalabwa@quokk.au 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You might have misunderstood what I was getting at 😅. I wasn't thinking about servers or admins, but about the person/people behind the project. That's whose views I can't overlook.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 months ago

I'm aware. As far as I know, Dessalines does not share those views at all, nor do the other contributors to Lemmy. Rimu is the lead developer of PieFed, and the largest PieFed instances are generally ones that align more closely with Lemmy.world style views, ie anti-communism and liberal Zionism.

[-] Pwalabwa@quokk.au 4 points 3 months ago

As far as I know, Dessalines does not share those views at all

I sure hope so! The problem is, even though anti-bigotry is a part of Lemmy's code of conduct, and the first rule of Lemmy.ml, he never addressed the noisiest of the issues with Nutomic, i.e., his transphobia...

PieFed instances are generally ones that align more closely with Lemmy.world style views

To be fair, since the grand Reddit exodus, it's the same on Lemmy if you exclude the troika (like damn, people, stop with the "triad" shit! "Troika" is just the superior term).

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't disagree with your concern, but given that options are essentially PieFed, Reddit, or Lemmy (with a tiny bit on mbin), Lemmy is the best of the bunch. The devs are communists, which contributes to why Lemmy overall is a lot more left. I'm also more willing to bet Nutomic comes to better social views over time, as has historically been common for communists (including Castro), than I am for Rimu.

As for the "troika," I'm aware that Lemmy.world is the biggest instance and that several others that are active are aligned, but on PieFed it's far more skewed at the moment.

[-] Tuuktuuk@anarchist.nexus 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

options are essentially PieFed, Reddit, or Lemmy

Reddit is actually a whole different system. Yes, it's alternative for the whole of fediverse, as it is completely unfederated. It's basically just one instance. Being a PieFed/Lemmy/Mbin alternative, it of course shares a lot of features with them (much more with PieFed, but a very reasonable amount with Lemmy as well!)

With PieFed and Lemmy and Mbin you have access to all the same posts and all the same communities, so they are alternatives to each other, and it mostly doesn't matter a shit which one you go for. But Reddit is a different thing altogether.

You can check what Reddit ise over here: http://reddit.com/ . Try searching for any Forumverse posts there and you will see it's not part of the Fediverse. You will not find any of our content there, unless someone who has created a user account also on Reddit has copypasted something to Reddit!

I hope this information was of use for you! 👍

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

I'm aware that Reddit is entirely different as a platform, I'm speaking about the Reddit format itself that Lemmy and PieFed descend from. Reddit is unacceptable to me for many of the reasons you stated.

[-] Tuuktuuk@anarchist.nexus 1 points 3 months ago

Okay.

Just wanted to point out that PieFed and Lemmy are the same thing. There's a reason to fight between Reddit and Forumverse, but whatever makes Lemmy grow is good for PieFed and vice versa. So, the meaning of the word "alternative" is very different when comparing Reddit with Forumverse, and when comparing various Forumverse softwares to each other.

Reddit is kind of "against" us, while PieFed and Lemmy play in the same team.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

PieFed isn't the same thing as Lemmy. It's federated, but has severe problems with the code, and a racist, anti-communist developer that puts that bias into PieFed itself. PieFed and Lemmy handle many things differently.

[-] Tuuktuuk@anarchist.nexus 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

What things do they handle differently? I mean, PieFed has an equivalent of Multireddits and Lemmy does not, but Lemmy is about to have them if 1.0 comes out some year. That's already been declared.

The same with flairs. Yeah, PieFed has them, Lemmy doesn't, but Lemmy will have them if 1.0 comes out.

I wouldn't say it's "handling things differently" that one has implemented features that the other one is still in the process of implementing, but has already decided it definitely will implement them, at some point.

PieFed is essentially just future Lemmy.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

An easy example is blocking. PieFed takes a deliberately different stance to how blocking is handled, one far more abuseable, and thus I prefer Lemmy. Another is that PieFed blocks communist instances by default, unless the instance admin overrides that. Another is the social credit score PieFed maintains, the way it blocks certain images, etc, the way it's coded in Python, etc.

PieFed is quite different, and worse in my use-case. They federate, but PieFed is not future Lemmy.

[-] Tuuktuuk@anarchist.nexus 1 points 3 months ago

different stance to how blocking is handled, one far more abuseable

How is it more abuseable?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

Blocked user comment replies are dropped, meaning if someone blocks me and begins to publicly slander me, I can't reply and clear my name.

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago

(like damn, people, stop with the “triad” shit! “Troika” is just the superior term).

It really is!

[-] Pwalabwa@moist.catsweat.com 4 points 3 months ago

It's baffling how a contextually meaningless term has become widespread rather than one that's actually descriptive of how grad Hexbear and dot ml are perceived.

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

Perfect opportunity to repost this

[-] Grapho@lemmy.ml 34 points 3 months ago

censor me so I can go post in YPTB

NGL this is the saddest shit I've read all week

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 months ago

It's a bit account right???

[-] Pwalabwa@quokk.au 1 points 3 months ago

Was gonna say MoG at first, but thought it was too transparent 🤷‍♀️

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Posting to MoG would be worse, at least yptb is occasionally pretty useful, and MoG is run by a zionist.

[-] Pwalabwa@quokk.au 3 points 3 months ago

I must confess that looking at MoG when it pops into my feed is my guilty pleasure. It's always fun to compare the allegations of a post with the content of the modlog. That capra demon sure has the audience they deserve.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 months ago

Fair. A fun recent one was EmoPunker's post about me, where they cut off the conclusion: they had claimed Pol Pot defenders were "genuine socialists," presumably out of fear of looking bad to their fellow social fascists.

[-] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago

Speaking against "defense of an empire" is rich because they banned my blahaj account for pointing out that Germany is complicit in the palestinian genocide.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago

Sounds about right for that crowd.

[-] hamid@crazypeople.online 20 points 3 months ago
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