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submitted 2 years ago by Lemmyin@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world

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[-] SoupOfTheDay@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

I believe beehaw only degenerated from lemmy. If you’re on kbin you can still see both.

[-] Oitea@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

Only from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works, not with others AFAIK. The anouncementpost can be found here https://beehaw.org/post/567170

[-] spirals@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Lol every time I read an announcement by these guys it feels off-putting. I thought I was a progressive but reading this and the comments makes me feel like I am the furthest thing from progressive if this is what they believe. Every time they mention a safe space, I wonder if they are trying to make safe spaces seem like a joke because that's the vibe I'm getting. Safe spaces are for victims, not for trying to create a great wall of beehaw "ideals."

[-] Oitea@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

I really don't see it in such a negative way. Being able to control what you allow and don't allow seems like the whole idea of a federated system in my perspective, including defederation with other instances.

Everything is also new to everybody and these are also just some volumteers sharing their servers and bandwidth to host a place for people to chill. Finding a way to moderate the huge influx of people sounds like a challenge and I can see why they would make this choice (and I believe it's temporary for now as well). I see Beehaw currently more like a phpbb forum that has it's own thing. So far I'm liking the different communities beehaw, lemmy.world and kbin bring, each in their own way.

[-] spirals@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I guess I'm frustrated with the communities that decided to chose beehaw really, some of the big subs announced they would now be moderating a replacement community on beehaw. It makes me want to shake them and ask why the fuck did they pick beehaw. If beehaw wants to become a great firewall, whatever it only makes me never want an account on there because I want to choose which instances to interact with, not the admins. But now I would have to find new communities to replace the ones taken away by beehaw admins. Any communities I have created can't be interacted by beehaw users and I can't interact with any communities on beehaw. I've already read a comment about a person from beehaw who now can't continue to mod a community on lemmy.world. The nuke action was not appropriate imo. The beehaw admins also refuse to delegate, they only want 4 people to comb through every single post and comment. This is insane for 4 people to do.

I also don't see this as a temporary measure, they want the lemmy devs to implement the exact mod tools they want otherwise they won't unblock my instance. I find that unlikely to happen any time soon, if ever, due to how open source projects work. Might as well as have told everyone it is permanent and they don't care instead of giving a bs reason. Why would I bother making an account on a different server at this point when that server can easily be the next one beehaw blocks? At what point does beehaw decide to just defederate because they can't handle interacting with other instances? I have taken the news very poorly and have nothing but disdain for the admins there.

[-] Jilanico@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

some of the big subs announced they would now be moderating a replacement community on beehaw

I thought beehaw didn't allow their users to create communities.

[-] spirals@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Looks like I made a leap there that was incorrect, I was looking at a list of migrated subs and assumed the mods were migrating with it. Sorry about that. Well another reason not to use beehaw, control freaks that don't let you open your own community.