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Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 55 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

There are a lot of people supportive of the PRC, both because the US Empire is declining and the PRC is positioned as an alternative to the US Empire's naked terrorism, and because Lemmy has a lot of communists. Lemmy has a lot of communists because the lead developers are communists, FOSS attracts communists, and because as Reddit bans communist communities they are often suggested to come here.

There's absolutely no credible evidence of CPC interference in Lemmy, this is a normal thing to happen to a FOSS alternative to Reddit.

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago

the PRC is not nearly an alternative to the US empire, its a replacement to it, with different but overlapping trade-offs. what about neither? It's seriously like instagram users fleeing to tiktok, then to upscroll or whichever other corporate platform.

the bad of the US does not make the PRC good. I want change, big changes, but definitely not that kind.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago

The US Empire is currently exporting mass death and destruction globally, threatening Greenland and Canada with annexation, kidnapped another country's president and first lady, is performing piracy for oil, threatening Cuba, and on top of all of these overt acts of terror, is super-exploiting the global south for super profits. The PRC, on the other hand, as a socialist country, is far more peaceful, maintains a defensive millitary, has ~3 overseas millitary bases compared to the hundreds of the US Empire, and offers mutual development opportunities like Belt and Road.

The differences are staggering. When countries in the global south partner with the US Empire, they are trapped in cycles of underdevelopment, where their surplus value is plundered. When countries in the global south trade and partner with the PRC, they achieve rapid development, and escape the never-ending cycle of impoverishment. This win-win development isn't because China is more morally good, but because their economic structure and geopolitical position compels them towards mutual cooperation over plunder and terror.

Further, there isn't really an alternative to the US Empire and PRC. The US Empire is actively invading countries to make sure they comply. The EU is vassalized by the US Empire. When we look at who the global south goes to for development opportunities, they are increasingly rejecting western imperialism in favor of cooperation with China and BRICS, and forming mutual partnerships with neighboring countries (like the Alliance of Sahel States).

The bad of the US Empire isn't why the PRC is better, the sheer benefit of working with the PRC is why the PRC is better.

[-] king_comrade@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Man's freaking out cos he just learned .ml stands for marxist-leninist 😂 Glad to find something we strongly agree on tho comrade.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago

To be clear, .ml stands for Mali, and it was allegedly chosen because it was cheap/free. Lemmy.ml is just the flagship, test instance, and happens to have a lot of communists because the devs are communists. Lemmygrad.ml is explicitly ML.

[-] Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 3 weeks ago

@Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml

Lemmygrad. ml is explicitly ML.

Exploring Left-Wing Extremism on the Decentralized Web: An Analysis of Lemmygrad. ml

... findings reveal a substantial increase in user activity and toxicity levels following the migration of these subreddits to Lemmygrad. ml. We also identify posts that support authoritarian regimes, endorse the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and feature anti-Zionist and antisemitic content ... Moreover, their support can extend beyond backing these authoritarian regimes, even cheering on their violent actions, as evidenced by their posts on the Russian invasion of Ukraine ...

The whole study makes a good read.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Communist subreddits like r/GenZedong and lately r/TheDeprogram, after being banned by Reddit, migrated largely to Lemmygrad.ml. I agree that the study is a good read, but for humor, not serious journalism. Their study is essentially them finding out that communists are on a communist platform, and then the study conductors conflate anti-Zionism with anti-semitism, a common hasbara tactic.

Nothing you said contradicts that Lemmygrad.ml is Marxist-Leninist, all you've really done is confirm that it is, while also conflating anti-Zionism with anti-semitism. Further, the only comment they point out as anti-semitic, was in fact removed by the moderation for spilling over the edge, as comrade Edie pointed out here. Claiming grad is anti-semitic because of comments it removes is tortured logic.

Also not sure why you're tagging my grad account, if I was trying to hide that I wouldn't post in my account description that I'm a Marxist-Leninist, nor would I have made my grad account the same name as my Hexbear and Lemmy.ml accounts.

[-] thoro@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 weeks ago

I liked the part where they conflate anti Zionism with antisemitism, show one comment/"post" as proof, and don't reference it so readers can view upvotes or context around said post.

[-] Edie@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago

I thought that's what happened with that one, thanks for digging it up!

[-] Edie@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago
[-] thoro@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago

The whole study makes a good read.

Srry I can't take it seriously when the author is this guy

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago
[-] king_comrade@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Holy shit 😂

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago

Incredible, the shining knight of Zionism and anti-communism.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

We already went over this garbage study with your @Scotty@scribe.disroot.org account^1 and @Sepia@mander.xyz account^2 two days ago and your @Sepia@mander.xyz account two months ago^3.

You’re like a broken record, bot.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 weeks ago
[-] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago
[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 weeks ago

Idk which I dislike more. Those types of accounts or the ones upset when you point out the I want x country to attack y country means people/civilians will get killed

[-] chloroken@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The problem with political studies is that they're nonscientific. It's a blog post they're calling a study. No amount of statistical analysis or clever methodology makes this a proper study because it's based on political opinions. A terrible, ignorant set of opinions at that.

"But isn't Marxism a study of politics?!" No, it's a body of works in economics and historical analysis, not wayward political opinions.

[-] king_comrade@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Ah cheers for the clarity, my mistake

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Tuscy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I used to be critical of PRC even though I’m American Chinese. Nowadays however I just don’t want to be governed by a pedo king. Seeing a bunch of teslas around when Elon is also very clearly on the list sucks too. Guess this is Chinese propaganda..

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