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submitted 3 weeks ago by Charger8232@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Privacy for me has been incredibly rewarding, but when talking to people who haven't been introduced to privacy, there are occasionally some moments that make it exhausting. One conversation in particular is one that I've had to go through dozens of times, and it always goes along these lines:

  • Alice: Why is your phone in airplane mode? / What's your phone number?
  • Bob: I don't have a carrier.
  • Alice: But you have a phone.
  • Bob: Yes.
  • Alice: How do you not have a carrier?
  • Bob: Phones can come without a carrier.
  • Alice: What do you use it for?
  • Bob: Everything you use yours for.
  • Alice: How do you talk to people?
  • Bob: Messaging apps over Wi-Fi.
  • Alice: What if you don't have Wi-Fi?
  • Bob: Public Wi-Fi is everywhere. If I don't have Wi-Fi, I likely don't need to get in touch.
  • Alice: What about emergencies?
  • Bob: I can still contact emergency services.

Each time it happens, it has a unique flavor. One person accused me of lying and then fraud. I know people are just curious and don't mean to be rude, but it makes me die a little inside every time someone asks. I've begun trying to sidestep the conversation entirely:

  • Alice: Why is your phone in airplane mode?
  • Bob: To save battery.

or:

  • Alice: What's your phone number?
  • Bob: You can contact me with an app called Signal.

People seem to think that a phone automatically comes with a carrier and that it'll stop working if you don't have one. In reality, I'm saving hundreds of dollars per year while avoiding spam, fraud, breaches, surveillance, and being chronically online. People have a hard time coping with those who do things a little differently.

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[-] jve@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I’m happy for you.

I think you dramatically overestimate both the cost of missing a call, and the benefit of not missing a call.

That said, it sure is convenient.

[-] iamthetot@piefed.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago

I think you drastically underestimate how much I love my partner.

[-] jve@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

No doubt.

I’m sure you’ve got multiple backup carriers and a satellite phone with you at all times to ensure that 99.99999 uptime, which translates to about 4 seconds of downtime a year.

But surely you weren’t exaggerating that part too.

[-] iamthetot@piefed.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

Of course the %age I used was an exaggeration. Sorry, was this conversation being driven by the assumption that it wasn't? I exaggerated to make my point.

[-] jve@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

And yet you decided to continue this thread by saying that you weren’t exaggerating.

[-] iamthetot@piefed.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

And yet you decided to continue this thread by saying that you weren’t exaggerating.

In fact, I never said that.

[-] jve@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I think you drastically underestimate how much I love my partner.

This was your response to me saying you were exaggerating.

What did you mean by this?

Apologies for assuming you said it because you were refuting my comment.

[-] iamthetot@piefed.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

What did you mean by this?

That I love my partner very much.

[-] jve@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That’s great and was very much inferred already.

Just glad we can all agree that you dramatically exaggerated when you said you needed 7 9s of availability.

[-] iamthetot@piefed.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, I established that was an exaggeration for effect. 👍

[-] jve@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

You sure did.

Proud of you, bud.

[-] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago

I think you dramatically don't understand how different other people are compared to you. Either that, or you lack empathy. I can't think of any other reasons why you would distrust and dismiss their reasoning.

[-] jve@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Hot takes here chunkystyles.

You really got me thinking about how some people just love each other so much that they would move mountains to make sure they don’t miss a single text message, and that’s completely normal, and not at all anxious behavior.

That missed text message or call could be the one where they call for help and you don’t get it and oh god what if I could have helped and oh god what if I didn’t get a chance to say goodbye?

Sure hope this person never drives or rides a bike anywhere. Probably fine if they do text and drive though. Because of the love.

[-] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago

You're just driving my point home.

There's really no reason for you to act like this. This kind of snark doesn't endear you to anyone and it doesn't help good faith conversion.

[-] jve@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You're just driving my point home.

Oh no.

there’s no reason for you to act like this.

Act like what?

Offering opinions in a public forum in support of the OP? Contradicting somebody making a silly claim that they can’t bear to be apart from their partner for 4 seconds a year?

Defensive when somebody tells me that I lack empathy?

Snarky at somebody chiming in to insult my thought processes with no basis for their claims?

this post was submitted on 26 Jan 2026
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