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[-] EldritchFeminity 82 points 1 month ago

"But why don't Americans protest? All they do is sit back and take it up the ass!" I hear every European crying as they ignore this right alongside all the other protests.

[-] Sxan@piefed.zip 31 points 1 month ago

TBF, news outlets have been utterly ignoring þe country-wide protests which have been consistently happening practically since Trump took office. Almost none of þe enormous 50502 protests have been covered. If we're not seeing it on American media, even fewer international people are going to see it.

[-] korazail@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 1 month ago

Sadly, I have seen news coverage, but it seems reliably right-wing and describes the events as things like "a mob" or "instigators" and other charged language.

Covering the story is one thing, but who does it and how they spin it can really change the perception.

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[-] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I love how it's a bajillion degrees below zero and they are all outside protesting, flipping shit. Yeah, Americans don't do anything. Fuck y'all that say it.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 27 points 1 month ago

Sorry if we'd like some firmer response to your country attacking our economy and threatening invasion

[-] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I get it. But also we are occupied by ice right now. We are spending a majority of our time resisting at the community level. Helping our neighbors from being abducted, monitoring ice, protesting.

Apologies that it's not meeting your standards.

[-] tibsta@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

He’s attacking our economy too. I know we could be protesting harder, but we’re also trying to survive.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 15 points 1 month ago

If you hurt yourself and hurt a friend, your friend may understand the first few times it happens, but after a while the "I'm hurting myself too!" excuse may not be enough for them to remain your friend.

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[-] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

Isn't that even more reason though?

[-] EldritchFeminity 4 points 1 month ago

Sorry if I'd like ANY response to the attacks on trans people across Europe, the UK, Canada, and plenty of other places.

I want people out there like the Black Panthers, too. I want Europe to divest themselves from the American military industrial complex. I want to watch American companies who support and enable these fascists see their profits shrivel up as the economy collapses. I want to watch Google and Facebook and Twitter burn.

But all I hear from Europeans on here is how all Americans are fascists for not being in open war with the regime while fascism tightens its grip on your own right-wing parties, and I'm sick of it. If you're not proactive, you'll be in the same boat as us. Italy had fascist gangs attacking people in the streets a few years back. We used to say "it could never happen here" when reading about Nazi Germany and wondering just how they could let it happen. And then it did happen here. Now you're the ones saying it.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 11 points 1 month ago

Sorry if I’d like ANY response to the attacks on trans people across Europe, the UK, Canada, and plenty of other places.

Italy's current governing party is declaredly fascist. It still hasn't done anything as bad as the US government had been doing before Trump, never mind after. Nonetheless, there's been multiple general strikes during their mandate, protests, and so on. Our ports were blocked in protest of the Gaza war, something we have WAY less influence on than you guys do, and those protests in my city drew the biggest crowd I'd ever seen at such an event.

Are we perfect? No. Should we do more? Yes. But please don't put us on the same level. All I hear from Americans is "oh no, I'll lose my job and starve on the street", but I live in a country where the average salary is half that of the US, with electricity two times as expensive and fuel almost three times as expensive compared to the US, so well, sorry if I don't fully empathise.

If you’re not proactive, you’ll be in the same boat as us. Italy had fascist gangs attacking people in the streets a few years back.

Italy INVENTED fascism, we've been fighting it for a century, it was born out of opposition to communism, and it wasn't eradicated at the end of WWII because our new overlords, the US, were just as afraid of communism as our previous ones, so yeah, we know, we're working on it, we've been for a long time.

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[-] teolan@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Because just standing outside is not how a protest achieves anything. True protests must be disruptive and last. The Yellow jackets burned down the avenue des champs Elysées every Saturday for multiple months. The protests following Nahel's murder (very similar to that of Renee good in some aspects) burned down multiple police stations.

Standing protests like this a regular occurrence in France, but those are not the ones you hear about. Their only role is so build momentum and make people feel united.

Real change happens only through either much stronger protests or through actions like the whistles and following ice around making them feel unwelcome 24/7.

[-] prex@aussie.zone 6 points 1 month ago

Seeing this many people out in weather that I frankly can't comprehend sends a strong signal that disapproval of ICE is a normal, acceptable position. Humans are social creatures and I think these protests are massively influential at the polling booth - one of the few places that substantial change can be made.
Not that there is anything wrong with the whistles etc.

[-] teolan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

How would this convince anybody to go vote? Every one that sees this in a good light is already voting against Trump...

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[-] beSyl@slrpnk.net 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You seem to be hating on Europeans. I would practice some self enquiry.

Being this soft to literal fascism and fascists is not a good look. They are literally kidnapping children. Killing people. Blinding people. They are waging wars. Calling them literal nazis is appropriate. They are removing your healthcare or making it prohibitively expensive. They are stealing from you. Not only your health but also your money. Pump and dump schemes, etc. Last, but definitely not least, they are protecting each other. Each one of them is evil beyond comprehension and they are all playing together, protecting eachother. Your president is a pedophile. He is not only part but also probably one of the main people, of a ring of pedophiles.

Your hate towards Europeans is misplaced. All we want is justice and a good society.

[-] EldritchFeminity 7 points 1 month ago

I am hating on Europeans. Because Europeans have been hating on me and mine for almost a year now, regardless of what people do here.

Fascist gangs were roaming the streets of Italy a few years ago. Your fascist parties have been waging war against trans people like me for over a decade. Where is your resistance to them? Your solidarity with the weakest amongst you?

European hate is misplaced. All we want is justice and a good society, but we have to fight against 70 years of work to destroy our ability to fight as well as the ignorant and hateful minority of the populace who support these fuckers, and they're the ones the most willing to commit acts of terrorism. The people protesting are the average person who balks at the thought of fist-fighting in the street.

[-] mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

It might have something to do with the US bombing and bullying other countries for decades.

[-] Nangijala@feddit.dk 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I mean, on the flipside Americans (edit: and russian trolls especially)constantly mock European politicians with the "they're gonna send a strongly worded letter" which is the single most retarded thing I have heard and keep hearing from that camp. Personally, I have respect for the Americans who go protest, while I have a lot less respect for the politicians in America who do have the power to push back against trump, yet all they seem to do is nothing while blaming Europe for trump acting like a toddler. Meanwhile we here in Europe do what every adult with self respect does to a screaming child at the store - we tell them no. Calmly and without escalation. If we start behaving like trump, there is no adults left to help calm things down. In america, however, it seems that every politician is either enabling trump or acting like him: attacking the wrong people because it is easier to slap around your friends than standing up to your true enemy. Gavin Newsom. I see you, bitch.

But yeah, I have respect for the common folk who are protesting in america. I have had respect for the tons of protests they have done since january of last year. It is historical but it kinda drowns in the piles of shit trump poops out daily to keep all of us disoriented and angry at all kinds of different things.

He is destroying America from the inside and he's destroying America's relationship with their allies from the outside. I genuinely feel so fucking bad for you guys, because you and your children and your childrens children will be the ones to pay the ultimate price of trumps second presidency. Whatever allies you'll have left when his time is over will be significantly less than what they used to be and meanwhile your country will be in massive economic trouble which will only get worse once the effect of de-americanization in Europe starts to be felt in your country.

[-] 7101334@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

It comforts me to know people in entirely different countries also think Gavin Newsom is a little bitch.

Thanks, from California (* not a Republican)

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[-] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm confused by this. The only people I've read complaining about the "strongly worded letter" tendencies have been criticising the us democratic party for its dereliction of duty and utterly feckless disregard of their constitutional oaths in the face of this fascist xenocidal administration. Where are you seeing the imprecations against Europe?

EDIT: You know what, I just read the rest of the thread OP's comments, and I rescind my point. They spew enough anti-european angst to fill a couple of comment sections.

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[-] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 month ago

Yeah well the media is not exactly sponsoring the resistance. We just want to make sure that memes are not the only thing you're doing.

This is really nice to see, keep it up.

[-] Akasazh@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

No, this is great, as an European I'm proud of the Minnesotans that protested. I hope that more will follow.

[-] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

If you think protests are enough to fix this you're dreaming.

[-] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 12 points 1 month ago

They literally didn't say that. Stop making things up to get mad at.

[-] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not my country. Im just stating a fact.

[-] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 9 points 1 month ago

It's a non sequitur response and rude for no reason. That's the only fact I see here.

[-] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

"But why don't Americans protest? All they do is sit back and take it up the ass!" I hear every European crying as they ignore this right alongside all the other protests.

Direct quote. How is me saying protests wont work a non-sequitor exactly. Please do explain.

[-] Hypnotoad_@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Honestly you just seem like an ass, is my take

[-] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Solid deflection.

Let me be crystal clear here.

People from around the world from countries who have gone through this exact kind of thing, some of whom have personally experinced them firsthand, are telling you peaceful protests are not enough. This is coming from experience, not idle talk.

And instead of listening, you're getting mad and calling people big meanies.

I dont know if its because Americans are so used to people tiptoing around them or stroking their egos or whatever. But if you dont get your collective heads out of your asses you are going to end up a victim of history and your country will be unrecognizable.

You need to grow up and listen, not lash out when people levy criticism.

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[-] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"EuRoPeAnS sAy wE dOnT pRoTeSt".

LOL, one year too late.

"B-b-buT hOw aBoUt mY jOb, I caNt jUsT gO pRoTeST"

Only started protesting when a white American citizen got shot in the face.

Otherwise fascism was perfectly acceptable, as long as it didn't affect you - the white Americans.

But okay I guess, better late than never.

Sure go pat yourself on the back, even though this protest hasn't even achieved any results yet.

[-] EldritchFeminity 12 points 1 month ago

The protests last year were some of the largest in US history, up there with and possibly larger than during the Vietnam War and Civil Rights Movement.

But go ahead and ignore those. Keep proving my original post right.

It took a decade for the Civil Rights protests to get any real change to happen, and that was only after the murder of MLK caused the black community to burn down entire city districts and cause billions of dollars worth of property damage. Your average person - even in Europe - won't go that far unless pushed.

Europeans were perfectly fine with Nazi fascism right up until it was knocking down their door. They've been perfectly fine with allowing their right-wing parties to fall further and further into fascism right alongside the US. Italy had fascist gangs roaming the streets attacking people a few years back. You've been perfectly content to watch as European politicians target people like me almost as badly as Republicans have. Where are your protests in support of trans people? I guess it doesn't affect you, so you don't care.

So go ahead and keep acting like you're so much better than Americans. All of you are just proving my point and showing the exact reason that I've had enough of Europe and Canada. Pot, meet kettle.

I've been in full support of anything Europe and Canada are doing to hurt America and fix their own issues, but the constant vitriol against the people who actually want to fight the fight has made me sick of the armchair generals all over Lemmy.

[-] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The protests last year were some of the largest in US history

Yeah, I dunno if marching dressed as inflatable Pokémons did anything. In fact, I know it had an absolute zero effect, things only got worse, way worse. What was the point of that?

"B-b-buT tHeY wErE bIgGeSt eVeR".

Sure, pat yourself on the back, but your country is still run by a pedophile war criminal.

It still blows my mind, what kind of fucked up people elect such a person as a President... Fyi, Germans never elected Hitler, but you did! And now the world, suffering at the hands of your elected "President" are supposed to feel sorry for you?

"B-b-buT i DiDnT vOtE fOr HiM" is what your gonna tell me, aren't you?

It took a decade for the Civil Rights protests to get any real change to happen

Isn't that just proof that your "protests" are useless?

As recently as September 2025, Nepalese people overthrew their corrupt government in just 48 hours.

Your average person - even in Europe - won't go that far unless pushed.

Bulgaria (Europe) changed their government in December 2025, because they were corrupt fucks, and people didn't need to be pushed nowhere near as far, no one got abducted or shot dead in the face. This happened just over a month ago. Get your facts straight. I guess you didn't know about that, because it doesn't get nowhere near as fucked up as in your shithole, because we don't let it.

You see, in Europe, we learned about how fucked up Nazis were and how fucked up fascism is and we have way more checks and balances in place to keep the government from doing whatever the fuck they want.

There isn't a single country in the EU where a president or prime minister would have the power on their own to just decide and bomb fishermen, or abduct a leader of another country, or fuck children and get away with this. What is happening in the USA is beyond fucked up, and your response so far was to dress up as inflatable Pokémons.

It took a white American citizen getting shot in the face, for people to start taking this seriously...

Over 60% of history taught in the USA is American history, yet the country is not even 250 years old. In the USA, all you learn is your propaganda called "America the greatest".

No wonder fascists had such an easy way to rise to power.

Sure, it's not perfect in the EU, but what is happening in the USA is whole magnitudes worse.

But you keep patting yourself on the back for marching in Pokémon costumes, that surely made the government think twice. That is, think twice whether to make a video of Trump pissing or shitting on the protesters.

Seriously, I have no words how fucked up the USA is, and you clearly can't the forest for the trees.

Europeans were perfectly fine with Nazi fascism right up until it was knocking down their door.

"B-b-buT wHaT aBoUt EU nAZiS."

GTFO with your aboutism.

Go ahead, keep acting like the USA is the greatest of all. That's what got you fucked in the first place.

[-] 7101334@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

As recently as September 2025, Nepalese people overthrew their corrupt government in just 48 hours.

Pretending that Nepalese youth didn't spend years organizing which culminated in that 48-hour successful revolution diminishes the otherwise-valid points you're making here.

[-] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

How many years did Americunts had to prepare? Haven't they been preparing their whole lives to overthrow a tyrannical government?

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[-] tinyOrange 6 points 1 month ago

"We have the biggest guns, we have the biggest cars and we have the biggest protests"!

"All hail the great Fascist States of America!"

You also have the biggest fascists, so I guess congrats?

[-] 7101334@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Otherwise fascism was perfectly acceptable, as long as it didn’t affect you - the white Americans.

This is the crux of the entire liberal "if Holocaust Harris won, we'd be out to brunch!" crowd of privileged liberals. You're totally correct.

And there are a ton of them on Lemmy surprisingly, so your downvote ratio on this comment is no surprise. They'll never offer a coherent response except, "Well if we had voted for genocide, at least things would be moderately less bad for us... yeah terrible about all those Palestinian children, but like, I have to show up for city-approved protests all the time now..."

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

To be fair, I think it's a really low number of Europeans doing this. A very loud, but low, minority of idiots.

We know all about minorities of idiots here in the US, so we should see this for what it is.

[-] johncandy1812@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What pressure has this put on Trump's administration to stop? This wasn't a strike because no demands were made for a return to work. Everybody is back to work today. ICE will be back at it again today too.

The protesters were herded into an arena to listen to some campaigning. Then everyone went home.

When's the next demonstration? In four months?

[-] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

The problem is that protests are to promote awareness. That does nothing, Trump thrives on bad PR as long as it can serve as misdirection for the latest tragedy. The general strike did start to do something. The biggest problem is that the Supreme Court is fully corrupt, the Executive Branch and all federal agencies are now fully corrupt, and congress is the weakest branch of government that works slow and will get hampered by the Supreme Court even if you manage to have fair elections for midterms.

Gavin Newsom is about the only state leader that is doing something effective, and Tim Walz should have been there with him during the World Economic Forum. The fact is, your federal government is corrupt down right to the core and it got this bad when things were way better. The people controlling the media, controlling the social networks that influence people, now have more say and wealth to hinder and twist the barebones democratic elements that the US had, to put dissenters like you into ineffective bubbles while they radicalize, enable, and pardon the vitriol that serves them.

The problem is that keeping you country together prevented slavery, but never defeated the confederates turned "MAGA" neoconfederates that run your federal government today, and a country that was founded and dissolved several times until it became the United States has now been indoctrinated that there are no circumstances where seeking independence is valid, even when the federal government that rules the states isn't following its own constitution. You cannot have a democracy without a shared reality, and you cannot have a shared reality where for some the constitution is a legal foundation for the country and for others it is simply just another bible from which to read excerpts off while ignoring the rest of it.

Europe shouldn't tell you what to do, but why would we ever deal the same way we have before with a country that proven itself to be psychotically bipolar? Do you realize that our governments cannot orbit around yours because we have our own politicians to deal with? That's not the case with a number of states in the US, yet they are forced to now submit to a dictatorship even though they are the economic motors for the country that other states' politicians basically live off of. Anyway, you guys do you, the US as it is now has lost a lot of standing in the world - except with dictatorships, where standing is basically just optics anyway. I understand people are doing what they can, it would (and likely will) be difficult to do the same thing here, there's too much money going into manipulating governments and corruption could not have denied oversight at a worse time.

The core problem is one where billionaires have gone Cambridge Analytica and have destroyed and attacked our share reality - the reason why they are also ardent AI proponents, and they are operating everywhere. Honestly, I don't have a solution, just observations. But understand that from our point of view, was it better to deal with the USSR, or was it better to deal with each of its members like Ukraine and Russia individually?

[-] chaitae3@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

It was true when I said it and I'm proud of everyone for what they've achieved since then.

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[-] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

Maybe replace "protest" with "vote" and one day the assraping might stop

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago

What are you gonna do the other 364 days of the year?

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[-] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago

yes, obviously, but what kind of henai? youre not one of those perverts are you?

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[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

That's not the electorate we have. We need good candidates to beat bad candidates. Second worst isn't good enough to win. Scream at voters all you want and it won't change a thing. We need better candidates.

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