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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

She did. She calls Maduro illegitimate and then doesn't call the invasion illegitimate, giving the invasion legitimacy by contrast. There's context behind why she's doing that, which we discussed, but that doesn't change the fact that she's helping manufacture consent for regime change by her mealymouthed omission.

[-] whvholst@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago

To me it fundamentally reads like "Maduro is illegitimate" equals -5 and what the US is doing is violating international norms (yes, we still are pretending those exist) and that equals -3, and they are both negatives. But now we are arguing perception, which may be less than useful.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

To me it reads like "we somewhat disagree with the US's methods but we strongly agree with the US's objectives" and isn't that just the most typical European thing? Never strongly condemning anything, because really, they got what they wanted even if it's distasteful.

[-] whvholst@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago

Heh, as a European, that is pretty spot on.

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