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That & build quality.
Teslas have horrible build quality.
Said it before. Great cars sadly built in America. Chinese and European ones have no issues.
We are hearing horrible things about the Teslas manufactured in Germany from the people working there. Employees leave that place in droves, not only because of the abysmal way they are treated, but also because of the awful quality they are forced to produce there. The question is not where it’s produced, it is the company.
Not seen anything from owners stating anything like that from EU or Chinese models. I'm not saying it's not possible just it's not being widely reported by credible organisations or by end users as far as I can see.
I've no horse in this race btw, I just hate echo chambers and rampant tribalism. EV are still a hotbed of both.
You're either lying or living under a rock.
There was literal mass protesting and vandalism of Tesla stores in China due to "ghost braking" and other safety/performance items that musk refused to take care of. This started end of last year and continued into the 1H23, just to catch you up on your facts.
It's funny how it's always the ones who don't have a fucking clue, who see consensus and agreement as an "echo chamber and rampant tribalism".
That's a lot of anger directed at someone you don't know about something you don't own by a company you down use owned by someone who you hate who doesn't know you exist. You're going off at a random person on the Internet because what, I didn't immediately side with you? And that warrants this attitude you're throwing out? Not tribalism at all. Continually confirming how right you are isn't an echo chamber.
I'm out. People like you were the worst thing about reddit and you've brought your toxicity here. Good job.
You should give reddit a shot now that Lemmy is growing. There's plenty of more victim groups for people who make up bullshit and then cry when shut down with facts.
Side with me? What are you 12? No one needs you to take sides when there's overwhelming evidence. You just don't like being shown your wrong. Here you go, it was all over every front page/business/automotive/renewable major news source for several months if you cared to actually contribute to a real conversation.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-owners-china-protest-against-surprise-price-cuts-they-missed-2023-01-07/#:~:text=In%202021%2C%20Tesla%20faced%20a,complaints%20in%20a%20timely%20way.
Best of luck on Twitter/X/ Truth Social wherever you find a home making up lies to protect a billionaires fragile ego.
Here's to hoping the Chinese evs come to the usa when the tax incentives end for us car companies. Otherwise I'm leaning to hyundai if that doesn't mature.
I don’t really care where the company hails from but I like NIO’s approach to fast-swappable batteries at service stations over long wait times at charging stations. Wait an hour to recharge or wait 15 minutes for a tech to slap in a fully charged battery, think I’ll grab a drink and snack and by the time I’m done buying that, they’re likely done swapping my battery. They’re already doing it in China and the NIOs are selling well there
An hour?? You lot must have proper rubbish infrastructure. Longest I've "waited" was 24 minutes. I in fact had to nip back and move my car as after a pit stop at the toilet and waiting to get a drink and snack, the car was almost full and my other passengers still weren't back.
That’s great if you can get a supercharger free when you get there and you’re filling from depleted. Pretty much all the manufacturers state 45 minutes zero to full on a supercharger, and in my city at least the super chargers are few and far between and there’s generally a wait for them since they’re somewhat rare. They shouldn’t be rare but I live in the Midwest and there is next to no government appetite for moving away from fossil fuels