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[-] CAPSLOCKFTW@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

Free speech does not mean that you can say anything. You can't break the rights of others by using your own rights. For example, racial slurs violate human rights of those targeted by them.

[-] Ardipithecus@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Uhhh, no, sorry sweaty, they're just words. Screaming historically violent obscenities at marginalized groups is good, actually. It's just the marketplace of ideas. Besides, they could call me cracker if they want, so it's equal. free-real-estate

[-] monobot@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

"The pen is mightier than the sword"

[-] kava@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Free speech means that you can say anything. That's the definition. We put practical limitations on it. For example defamation or calls to violence.

But every single limitation should be carefully articulated and considered. I don't see why a racial slur would violate anyone's human rights.

For example I can go up to someone and insult them for all sorts of things - "you're an ugly stupid worthless piece of trash" and that's ok but I say "you're a dirty [racial slur]" all of a sudden it's different?

If we want to protect people from the effects of words we should raise children with thicker skin - not try and regulate what people can and can't say. Hearing a word does not have to upset you.

[-] Sal@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

For example I can go up to someone and insult them for all sorts of things - “you’re an ugly stupid worthless piece of trash” and that’s ok but I say “you’re a dirty [racial slur]” all of a sudden it’s different?

If it makes you feel any better, telling someone "you’re an ugly stupid worthless piece of trash" would get you banned from my instance too, so it is not so different.

[-] CAPSLOCKFTW@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Universal Declaration of Human Rights says:

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

So no, you can't say anything.

[-] monobot@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I think that main problem is not what you personally said, but that they are hearing the same slur all day, every day, from different people.

Frequency they hear it is what makes it problematic.

“your personal liberty to swing your arm ends where my nose begins” but you have to be more understanding to be able and see where their nose is. Sadly, it is a bit closer than expected.

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